..Wipeout®HD Photo thread..

Streeteh · 27 Sep 2008 at 13:18

DreXeL said:
If it can't then yes, I take back what I've said. I see no reason why the 360 couldn't do it in 720p @ 60fps though.

1080p is a completely different kettle of fish from 720p, iirc it is over double the number of pixels which puts a HUGE amount of extra strain on the GPU. A good example of this would be Crysis: Warhead, that will run flawlessly on my PC at 720p, if i up it to 1080p my frame rate plummets.

I'm not saying the 360 isn't capable of this, there is no way any of us will actually know, but what i am saying is no one, ever, in the history of consoles has produced graphics this good running at a solid 60FPS in 1080p. Surely everyone must agree with that?

5bjoshua said:
People seem to forget the excellent scaler chip in the 360...

Scaling to 1080p and rendering at 1080p are a completely different kettle of fish.

[EDIT] Taking the previous article into account, even though the resolution does drop in busy scenes, the bottom end is still 50% higher than 720p

Logsi · 27 Sep 2008 at 14:02

Streeteh said:
Scaling to 1080p and rendering at 1080p are a completely different kettle of fish.

[EDIT] Taking the previous article into account, even though the resolution does drop in busy scenes, the bottom end is still 50% higher than 720p

What i mean is the scaler chip does a very good job when displaying at 1080p Looked really good!

KNiVES · 27 Sep 2008 at 14:09

TheStig1 said:
photo mode does enhance the graphics but not that much the game really does look that good and at 60fps its quite impressive this game along with gt5p really does show the ps3 can deliver some outstanding graphics that the 360 imo cant match

Since when did you transform from an ardent 360-or-die fanboy into a PS3 one?

TheStig1 · 27 Sep 2008 at 14:32

KNiVES said:
Since when did you transform from an ardent 360-or-die fanboy into a PS3 one?

so because you praise a game it makes you a fanboy?
this is why this forum cant handle debate

Inazuma · 27 Sep 2008 at 14:44

Ohhh! Cold

Edit: Just out of curiosity, what other forum do you use Stig?

thedoc46 · 27 Sep 2008 at 14:45

Ridge Racer 7 was 60fps at 1080P .,,,, No-one ranted and raved about how nice that looked... I thought it looked the bomb !

Inazuma · 27 Sep 2008 at 14:47

Because it looked like an upscaled PS2 game.

And it was a bad game

Mobius 1 · 27 Sep 2008 at 14:50

make your own feisar craft

Edit, and stand

http://aliens.humlak.cz/aliens/aliens_papirove_modely/bonus_models/wipeout_pure/feisar/feisar.pdf

Sweetloaf · 27 Sep 2008 at 15:24

thedoc46 said:
Ridge Racer 7 was 60fps at 1080P .,,,, No-one ranted and raved about how nice that looked... I thought it looked the bomb !

I did but no one listened

It did suffer from slowdown though and didn't look as nice as Wipeout.

Logsi · 27 Sep 2008 at 15:33

I feel so bad for only using the feisar! It's been my favourite ever since the first PS1 game!

Memphis · 27 Sep 2008 at 15:46

I'm on the "As-a-guy"

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Whappers · 27 Sep 2008 at 15:57

Can we keep the focus on photographs and the game please and not stray off talking about other systems and other games?

Memphis · 27 Sep 2008 at 16:06

I RTM'ed the thread asking for it to be cleaned up, cause it's way too close to becoming just a fan boy argument

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KNiVES · 27 Sep 2008 at 16:07

TheStig1 said:
so because you praise a game it makes you a fanboy?
this is why this forum cant handle debate

No because your opinions swing more wildly than my grandma's ****. You have proved many times in the past you can't handle debates and logic to save your life so I dunno why you're pointing that line at me.

TheStig1 · 27 Sep 2008 at 16:08

KNiVES said:
No because your opinions swing more wildly than my grandma's ****.

nice family forum this is too :rolleyes:

would you much rather put a good game down because its not on the 360?
quite some attitude you have there and obviously trolling as you have nothing to add to the topic but personal attacks

KNiVES · 27 Sep 2008 at 16:27

TheStig1 said:
nice family forum this is too
would you much rather put a good game down because its not on the 360?
quite some attitude you have there and obviously trolling as you have nothing to add to the topic but personal attacks

I haven't derided the game, nor have I made any comments about it not being on the 360. I don't have time for this 'console allegience' malarky you are taking very seriously so far. It's pretty rich of you to call me a troll, seeing as you're guilty of that 90% of the time, Mister I-got-suspended-not-long-ago. You have some serious practice ahead of you.

In the meanwhile I'll be posting my own shots of WHD soon, it's a pretty good game. I can honestly say I cannot tell it's using the dynamic framebuffer effect, so that's a neat and subtle effect that I hope will be used more in games. It's a Sony Dev studio so maybe this means they will share that concept and technology with the other PS3 developers.

The Running Man · 27 Sep 2008 at 16:43

wow those pics actually look like hand painted plastic models, i.e real life objects photo'd but not like real racing craft...

im debating whether to buy, i have a 1080 40" samsung tv!?

TheVoice · 27 Sep 2008 at 16:47

Very tempted by this. Trying to save money at the moment, but it looks like a fantastic game for the price.

markyb · 27 Sep 2008 at 16:48

Nickg said:
wow those pics actually look like hand painted plastic models, i.e real life objects photo'd but not like real racing craft...

im debating whether to buy, i have a 1080 40" samsung tv!?

Mate you owe it to your Samsung TV!

Demon · 27 Sep 2008 at 17:11

Margaret said:
What does PS1 and PS2 have to do with anything?

The PS3 architecture is completely different.

I wasn't meant to be inflammatory..

The PS1/2 are consoles with vastly differing architectures to the PC, I think has forced these developers to approach things completely differently and have often had to think outside the box to develop game engines for them. Although 'different', the PS3 architecture is yet again completely different to a PC, and once again the developers are having to think outside the box and try new techniques, it would seem from the results of their efforts that they are once again using techniques that aren't the 'norm' on PC development yet work very well on the PS3.

On the 360, it would seem first parties largely using 'normal' techniques that are developed from years of PC games design. Halo / Gears of War etc are all cross platform (360/PC). I think the fact the 360 does OK with this approach has led to games being developed in much shorter time frames, however the I think from all the reading around that the 360 architecture would benefit from more bespoke graphics techniques, but this means longer development time, which I don't see MS pushing.

That is all, I see 2 consoles designed for games, but one seems to have more bespoke development then the other..

All IMO of course.. please don't start ranting and raving over it!