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2008 Singapore GP - Race 15/18
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Unless Hermann Tilke was a city planner in Singapore about 50 years ago, probably not.
Well I thought perhaps he chose the layout of which streets to use
Since very new track seems to have his grubby hands all over it 
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He retired because it was no longer worth the risk to him. He didn't exactly earn a ****-load for his title (he was McLaren's least expensive title winner ever, I think), and he only carried on as long as he did because Wolf offered him:
Dr. Evil said:
Otherwise, he'd have called time at the end of '78.
His time in F1 in racing had seen more than a few drivers meet their maker, and F1 was at the "really rather suicidal" part of the general cycle it goes through (last peaked in '94, when the rules banned all the technology that was keeping them on the road....).
F1's loss on the driver front was met by a gain on the commentary front, mind. Murray reckons (according to his autobiography) that his time with Brundle in the booth was a lot of fun, but he also seems to retain a great deal of affection for James and his time with him. And certainly, their partnership is part of my childhood - made all too short by that heart attack.
How recent?
And anyway, I'm sorry - but you're talking rubbish
This is not vintage F1. This is not vintage racing. It's good, as modern F1 goes. In fact, it's pretty damned good.But it is not the best F1 season in my memory, and I have a distinct suspicion that if you polled the entire OcUK membership it isn't the best for a significant number of them either.
It's weird. I can watch review tapes of the '76 season, with all the twists that happened then and get excited. But this year.....I'm sorry, something is missing. Something fundamental. Maybe if Massa got himself cooked in an accident and came back from the point of death to race again, and Hamilton was losing his wife to a famous actor.....that might do the trick.
Or maybe it's as fundamental as there being not enough ******* overtaking!!!!!
*ahem* Sorry 'bout that. The frustration with the state of F1 right now sometimes builds up a bit too much.
I'm not sure, you know. I think he does hold back. He certainly doesn't throw everything on the line like Mansell did. I watched my '87 British GP tape the other day - Mansell drops back with a vibration (missing wheel weight), has to make an unscheduled tyre change. ends up ~30 seconds behind Piquet with 28 laps remaining. Guess where he ends up?
By lap '59, he'd dragged himself right onto the gearbox of Piquet. He did his patented move - a quick weave on the Hangar Straight and then diving inside at Stowe, and thrusted through. He ran the last two laps with the fuel gauge reading empty, and ran out on the slowing down lap.
I'm sorry, I know I'll cop hell for it.....but Hamilton isn't in that league quite yet.
This I will agree with, and I do enjoy it. He will go out and try to grab exceedingly quick times in practice, which is brilliant. I just wish he'd do that a bit more often, rather than spend his time signing merchandising deals, and driving into the back of stationary cars in the pitlane with the red light on and the team telling him over the radio to hit the sodding brakes!
Huh? That was exciting?
Really???
Christ, it's worse than I thought. You lot really are very easily excited by this crap.
******* hell.....
Heh, that's great
The FIA are a joke!
Although, this will go completed un-noticed and unreported by the ITV coverage as they spend the entire hour build up raving and crying that 'OMG HAMILTON IS ONLY 2ND ON THE GRID WHAT SHALL WE DO OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG!!!!'.
Although, this will go completed un-noticed and unreported by the ITV coverage as they spend the entire hour build up raving and crying that 'OMG HAMILTON IS ONLY 2ND ON THE GRID WHAT SHALL WE DO OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG!!!!'.
Crap-****.
I just had a thought. Massa is on pole - if he wins tomorrow, we'll get subjected to another round of that hoary old whinge that he can only win from pole position.
Oh, joy....
Bugger it. I still hope he wins. In fact, I hope he wins and Hamilton puts the McLaren gently into the wall. And I really want Massa to take this title now, just to see how much crap gets posted on here about how the FIA handed Ferrari the frigging title.
I just had a thought. Massa is on pole - if he wins tomorrow, we'll get subjected to another round of that hoary old whinge that he can only win from pole position.
Oh, joy....
Bugger it. I still hope he wins. In fact, I hope he wins and Hamilton puts the McLaren gently into the wall. And I really want Massa to take this title now, just to see how much crap gets posted on here about how the FIA handed Ferrari the frigging title.
I have absolutely no confidence in this track producing any decent overtaking, so basically the front end will stay as it ends up after the first lap.
The ONLY interesting thing is Alonso starting 15th. He has been very fast in practice, and could try to fight his way through the field, which could be interesting to watch.... even though I hope he flings it into a wall trying
If Massa wins by any less than 7 points, the entire internet, hell, the entire world will be full of that.
And seen as the FIA dont seem to actually want to clarify the situation, in favor of just throwing out the case, i think people will have a perfectly good reason to be angry.
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It's in keeping with his season, and that's not a bad thing IMO.The ONLY interesting thing is Alonso starting 15th. He has been very fast in practice, and could try to fight his way through the field, which could be interesting to watch.... even though I hope he flings it into a wall trying
He's been busting his balls all year with that car. Some of his performances have been stunning (obviously Barcelona). He's little to lose by throwing his car into retirement by going out there and attacking, and I think he knows that.
It's refreshing to a see a champion in a lower car and to not lose his enthusiasm or spark as a result. He just wants to put on a show, to go out and give performances the car shouldn't. That he goes over the top with it occasionally shouldn't be counted against him. I can't wait to see him in a top car again.
Let's face it, despite the mistakes, he's not been any worse than any of the drivers in the top 2 teams this season (perhaps Massa excluded)...
Yep. It will.
Kimi will struggle tomorrow. In order to ensure that he isnt overtaken, the FIA are attempting to get rid of his competition (a BMW). Ideally they need to find something on Kubica, Heikki and Hamilton, but there just isnt enough time to cook something up.
Question(s) for you, sunama. You said:
Do you agree that Trulli should have been penalised?
If yes, do you think that he deserved a greater penalty than a mere fine?
If yes, would you get all angry and stamp your feet if Hamilton did the same thing and got that greater penalty, even if Trulli got it as well for his transgression?
Meh, whatever. I'm just about convinced now that these threads really aren't worth the effort.
Do you agree that Trulli should have been penalised?
If yes, do you think that he deserved a greater penalty than a mere fine?
If yes, would you get all angry and stamp your feet if Hamilton did the same thing and got that greater penalty, even if Trulli got it as well for his transgression?
Meh, whatever. I'm just about convinced now that these threads really aren't worth the effort.
No, not any more.
You wouldn't keep reading them if you didn't
I think it's equal parts stupidity and sheer bloody mindedness on my part right now. That's what has carried me this far, anyway.
Trulli should have been penalised, absolutely. What he did was extraordinarily dangerous. To drive in the opposite direction is unbelievable.
To do that sort of thing on a normal road is dangerous, but to do it on a race track when drivers are full of adrenaline and totally committed to taking the corner at maximum speed.
In Canada, Hamilton switched his mind off and even though he saw a red light and was told to stop, he didnt. If that had happened when Trulli was doing what he did, then 2 cars could've hit eachother head on at full speed.
I'm actually quite a lenient person. So I would much rather the stewards and the FIA reps give him a good dressing down for what he did. And perhaps an apology to all the other drivers. That would be far more potent than a poxy fine. To put it into context, he probably earns that amount in about an hour, so it wont bother him.
If Hamilton did the same thing then I would expect exactly the same penalty - not harsher or more lenient. It should be identical. But, I've seen the work of the FIA and it is biased against McLaren.
