All PC Gamers are pirates and the PC is hard to program for...

He is right though, the PC section is full of piracy talk, worst than the console section.

You talking about the same console section that have people whoring live sigs showing theyre playing games that are unreleased in the uk?

Or is that the same console section that have people getting all this access to "preview\press" copies of a game then when asked for proof show a half assed photoshop attempt of the disc or the box.

Console section is easily as bad as the pc section if not worse.
 
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Basically PC Gamers demand higher standards & it stands to reason.
We spend money on a gaming PC for all its benefits over what a console has to over & slowly over the years many games are becoming more console like & if the console experience was what we wanted most then a console would be what we would use most.

But that does not mean that i don't like the odd console game on the PC & get the better gfx & an option of a better control system.

I have a PS2/XBOX not used atm & 360-elite that only used when my arm is twisted to play with friends onlne that are not PC gamers.
 
Everyone you know with a PS3 or Xbox what?

I dont know anyone who plays backups on PS3, 360 piracy is not that rife either, not among the common man.

OOPS, good point lol..

Everyone i know who has a consol has them chipped or modded to play games, they use the pc to download them and play, they never buy them. when they stop making them for pc's they will notice a big drop in profits on the consols too. £30 to £50 a game is too much. blaming it on pirates is a easy way out. didnt stop the music indutry or the film industry. once again the pc user gets it in the neck.

Maybe the profits dropped not due to piracy, but the games are dull, boring and same all the levels... maybe online gaming is the way to go, much better than 9/10 offline only games.

Just an idea..

ColiN
 
well i pirate everything..... oh wait.... no i dont. £20 for the average pc game is nothing, if people cant afford that chances are they cant afford a good enough pc to play it anyway!!!!!!!!!!
 
Will this be the same as how Mass Effect and Gears of War 1 would "definately not" make it to PC, but eventually did anyway?

How I see it, until there is no money to be made from selling games for PC, we will see the big titles eventually make their way onto PC. I mean, the bottom line is, porting the game to PC will make money.

Lots of money.

And companies love money.

PS: Cliffy B is a douche.
 
He means it is not a credible reason to be a pirate and download it no matter how crappy the game is you still should buy it if you would like to play it.

That's not what he meant but I'll comment on it anyway.Regardless of how I got GoW1, I played it for 10 mins, and although I loved what it was trying to do I couldn't overlook the fact that it was pausing every 3 seconds, didn't support surround sound (yet alone stereo sound tbh) properly and crashed intermitantly. It's been removed and banished from my pc. Any one who paid for that game at release should have had steam coming from their ears as in my view it's unacceptable to charge anyone any amount of money to play something that's obviously incomplete.

If they'd released a demo of that buggy POS I doubt they would have sold half as many copies as they did at launch.

To not welcome it GOW2

Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me.
 
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Its coming to the PC. They're just saying this so more 360 copies of Gears 2 will sell. If they can trick people into thinking it'll never come onto pc and their only way to play it is on a 360, they'll get more sales.

In a years time epic will come up with some new DRM system and release Gears 2 on the pc.
 
That's not what he meant but I'll comment on it anyway.Regardless of how I got GoW1, I played it for 10 mins, and although I loved what it was trying to do I couldn't overlook the fact that it was pausing every 3 seconds, didn't support surround sound (yet alone stereo sound tbh) properly and crashed intermitantly. It's been removed and banished from my pc. Any one who paid for that game at release should have had steam coming from their ears as in my view it's unacceptable to charge anyone any amount of money to play something that's obviously incomplete.

If they'd released a demo of that buggy POS I doubt they would have sold half as many copies as they did at launch.
That's weird - I bought GoW1 on release day and it was fine. Surround sound worked for me, it never paused and it has crashed maybe once to this day. I have sunk more hours than I can count into co-op.

Just goes to show that one user can have a bad experience with a game but that doesn't mean it's crap. I'd even stretch to say GoW is one of the most stable release in my collection.
 
But it will be to the people who did like the first one or are you saying that every the xbox360 user liked it & no PC user did.

Pretty much yes, it's a console game and we PC owners demand a little more from our games than simply duck behind something, shoot, run, duck behind something, shoot. Rise and repeat. Very dull game indeed, including the bland graphics.
 
Everyone you know with a PS3 or Xbox what?

I dont know anyone who plays backups on PS3, 360 piracy is not that rife either, not among the common man.
Yeah I agree with you. People make the assumption that because they and their friends mod their consoles everyone does - I don't think so.
 
Well I'm tempted to buy a 2nd hand 360 then chip it and download Gears becaus eit /will/ (like all xbox 360 games of late) come out before release on torrents.

AMIRITE ?

This is PathEPIC (!) - In a years time they're going to move to MAC gaming because they're going to say the console market has been flooded with pirates with chipped consoles.
 
I can see a lot of companies going this way which is not a good sign, Their main problem is their not looking forward enough. Digital Download services should be the only platform they should aim for (on PC).

Allowing decent graphics onto a console (which was inevitable and not a bad thing) has decreased the amount of people who use PC as a primary engine.

Once OS's become free and components become cheaper i hope developers will start thinking of PC's again because they will be more affordable.
 
Just goes to show that one user can have a bad experience with a game but that doesn't mean it's crap. I'd even stretch to say GoW is one of the most stable release in my collection.

It might not of been crap for you but it was for a lot of people. Quite frankly it's verging on the miraculous that you didn't suffer any bugs from it.

Basically from the release day onward the technical area of the epic/gow forums was full of users with an assortment of shared problems. It was ridiculous to think the game passed any sort of testing with the volume of people having similar, if not identical, issues.
 
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