All PC Gamers are pirates and the PC is hard to program for...

arknor said:
not really when your consider nearly everyone probably knows someone who will chip it for them.

even my mum whos in her 60s can get pirate dvd's from some guy at the nursing home she works in i bet he sells games aswell and probably knows someone who chips consoles.
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Yes really..knowing someone & actually making the effort to get it done is another matter.

I know many drug dealers but i have never used one.

With the PC you don't need to know anyone to get pirated martial you just need a link to the net.
you dont need to make an appointment, you don't need to carry the PC to anywhere else & you can do it 24/7.
 
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arknor said:
not really when your consider nearly everyone probably knows someone who will chip it for them.

even my mum whos in her 60s can get pirate dvd's from some guy at the nursing home she works in i bet he sells games aswell and probably knows someone who chips consoles.
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Common man, lets get serious and not jump to conclusions. The DVD market is so much larger than the games market, it just isn't comparable.

Take a look at console sales, they thrash PC sales, and if a game sells it clearly hasn't been pirated. Console games sell because there are large numbers of unmodified machines out there. As previously mentioned (and is the topic of the thread) PC gamers have no restrictions or inconveniences and they are very aware of methods to pirate games.

Let's stop making these comparisons now.
 
Lyon85 said:
It almost sounds like you're proud to admit this.
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I really don't care, I buy some games and download most.

I didn't say I was proud, I was simply stating a fact, I don't understand how you got the feeling I was acting 'proud'.

Lyon85 said:
Do you believe you have valid justification, or perhaps you like people to know you are capable? Do you feel guilt?
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I will answer your question with another question;

Am I on Question Time?
 
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I've downloaded a lot of games in my time, but usually play and delete them within in hour. Don't get me wrong tho, I do buy my games if they're good enough. Hmmm, I normally buy 4 or 5 games a years for my pc and wii.
 
It was obvious this thread was never going to involve into an intelligent debate, they never do on here when discussing such issues.

Regarding the "piracy" claims by Cliiffy B, who cares?

He comes across as a bitter man to me. He will be hiring Jack Thompson as his solicitor next :)

In my opinion, the GOW games do not transfer that well onto the PC anyway so its no big loss.

Also, if this is true, then I say the "Games For Windows" Initiative is a dead duck as if Microsoft believed in the platform, surely they would publish GOW2 on it?

Im glad its not coming out on the PC, gamers will spend their money on a developer/publisher who believe in the platform.

I am also glad that these devs/publishers are leaving the platform as it can only mean LESS dodgy console ports.. also, this springs to mind:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empire:_Total_War

EVERY PC Gamer should buy this game as it will show what a (hopefully) well made PC Exclusive game can do.
 
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AWPC said:
Well he is partially right as a lot of PC users do pirate and come on here & many other forums to boast about it as well. Trying to give some BS excuse that as they paid ££££ for their quad core quad sli system its their birthright to pirate games as they are all rubbish anyway then try to justify it etc etc.
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I don't attempt to justify it, sometimes I eventually buy a game I pirated on release but that doesn't mean I believe I have a right to do it, also don't feel one bit bad about it. Don't really boast about it either, tend to play the game and continue on as if I'd bought it.
 
Gerard said:
Consoles are toys though, always have been, more advanced these days though than what they were but most still class them as toys.
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OK, I suppose you could label something than is made mainly for gaming a toy, but TBH they do a lot more than just play games now, so I don't think 'toys' is the right thing to call them any more. But it wasn't the 'toy' thing that I was objecting to, it looked like he was taking that stereotypical elitist attitude, as if he thinks PC gamers are somehow more intelligent and a better class of gamer. It's pathetic, and reminds me of the spotty Amiga owning oiks who used to write into digitiser on channel 4 ;)

Oh, and FWIW I still game on my PC sometimes, but it has taken a back seat to console gaming.
 
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I dont see what the prob is most people tend to own both a PC and console of some variety. As long as i can play a game one way or the other i dont care.
Get the best of both worlds :)
I dont see why there has to be this PC gaming is better than console mentality. Its damm right stupid if you dont like the games then dont bother its that simple.
 
memory said:
i cant agree with that...if a game sells its because its good.
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That's not my point. If a game gets one sale, that's one person who didn't pirate it. If it gets a million...
I'm simply saying console sales are much healthier than PC sales, just so people understand console piracy is not directly comparable to PC piracy.

Margaret said:
I really don't care, I buy some games and download most.

I didn't say I was proud, I was simply stating a fact, I don't understand how you got the feeling I was acting 'proud'.



I will answer your question with another question;

Am I on Question Time?
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I tried my hardest not to label you, but I thought talking publicly about it required a small amount of pride. I just wanted to know why pirates feel so comfortable admitting it. If I pirated I would probably keep my mouth shut, I think I would still feel guilt about what I was doing to the industry. Sorry if you took it as an insult, I was just trying to understand. I guess I'll stop being inquisitive before someone labels me a prude.
 
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memory said:
i cant agree with that...if a game sells its because its good.
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COD4 on PC has not even hit platinum due to extreme piracy. And there at least 6-7 million PC's worldwide which are capable of playing this very well (Nvidia say they have sold over 4 million 8 series cards & ATI must have at least 2-3 million decent PC cards out there).

If COD4 cannot do well then obviously piracy is a big concern as it is one of the better games released in recent times.

If ATI/Nvidia were smart here they would go to Epic and offer to pay the dev costs for PC exclusivity on their card and hope to get it back in new card sales. Surprised they have not done this yet anyway.
 
I bought COD4 for the PC... sold it to my mate after 2 days as its rubbish. To be honest, it was the 1st one i had tried. Maybe i am more in tune with online gaming, but i found this game dull, boring and same over and over. nice sounds, nice graphics, but lacking in game.

if COD5 comes out, and someone told me i can get a copy of it for free, id be tempted, save me £35 this time. if i like it, id buy it, if i didnt, id be happy that id saved myself money. Its time game companys woke up, 8/10 games are rubish and people like me, who work and pay are getting fed up with basic rubbish ever other game. looks liek the only games worth playing are online games now.
 
Lyon85 said:
That's not my point. If a game gets one sale, that's one person who didn't pirate it.
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that isnt true though.......i may pirate a game only to later go and buy it


Lyon85 said:
I just wanted to know why pirates feel so comfortable admitting it. If I pirated I would probably keep my mouth shut, I think I would still feel guilt about what I was doing to the industry.
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but isnt it better if someone has pirated it that they are honest about it ?
 
memory said:
that isnt true though.......i may pirate a game only to later go and buy it
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But it isn't working like that on PC, that's the problem. Too many people are pirating the game and not buying it. That's why this whole justification thing falls flat, people are ignorant to the fact that it is destroying the industry. My statement is correct.

memory said:
but isnt it better if someone has pirated it that they are honest about it ?
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No it is not, being honest about doing something illegal does not warrant slightly more acceptance. It is even opening a world of piracy to the previously unaware.
 
AWPC said:
COD4 on PC has not even hit platinum due to extreme piracy. And there at least 6-7 million PC's worldwide which are capable of playing this very well (Nvidia say they have sold over 4 million 8 series cards & ATI must have at least 2-3 million decent PC cards out there).

If COD4 cannot do well then obviously piracy is a big concern as it is one of the better games released in recent times.
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my bro has a q6600, 2gb ram and a 3870....not cutting edge at all but still a very capable setup.
i dont think he has even played minesweeper.
ive said to him so many times i would copy a game or 2 onto his computer but he has no interest at all.
all he does is rip music from his cds and puts them on his little mp3 players.
a friend of mine has never touched computer games....email and a bit of web browsing.....not sure of the spec but she bought it last year.

i dont know a single person who owns a console and doesnt or didnt play games.

as for cod4,i dont have that either. i got the impression the MP wasnt too good so i didnt buy it.
 
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