Absolutely, but there is more to it than that.
I still have one for my six month old son though as, if you are in accident, the emergency services know to look for a baby. (in addition of course to a car seat etc).
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Absolutely, but there is more to it than that.
I still have one for my six month old son though as, if you are in accident, the emergency services know to look for a baby. (in addition of course to a car seat etc).
Oh from that point of view I can see its use.
Also maybe I came across a little more "blunt" than I meant.
I see the "Baby on Board" sign and I just assume that the people are telling me that they have a child and that somehow I should be jointly responsible for it.
Whereas in reality nobody should be tailgating - these total ****** that do are hardly going to pull back when they see such a sign
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No they don't - this was debunked on Radio 2 a month or so ago. The emergency services always look for a child in the car anyway. The sign is of no value to them and they ignore them - there is just as much chance that a car with a sign has no children in it than a car with no sign has children in it.
They are a pretentious waste of time.
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Serious bike enthusiasts don't drive their cars to work! That's for poofs!
Serious enthusiasts would have read the first post and wondered why it didn't add up... at all, from your reply it would appear you didn't or took it at face value without any thought.
As for couriers/commuters who actually learn to ride year round whatever the weather and take care of the machines they have (as it's usually the main form of transport/livelihood) comment are you telling me the fair weather weekend Power Rangers are the knights of the road ? Half of them go out with bikes that have stood for months at a time on tyres that haven't been deflated and rotated over the winter/checked in years (due to doing sweet fa miles so it must be fine) and try to corner like Rossi and perform suicidal overtakes.
For reference I work and used to live in an area well loved by bikers - myself included. I spend more time cursing the 'Power Rangers' for killing themselves and others in spectacularly stupid ways than i've ever spent moaning about commuters or couriers being disrespectful. For the record it's been a quiet year, only 3 fatal crashes and two of those were solely rider error.
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I have an 8 month old baby and wouldn't dream of having a Child on Board thing on my rear window.
All they are for are for fat ugly mothers who have pink fluffly things all over their car.
"Please don't crash into me, crash into the guy in front of me as I HAVE A CHILD ON BOARD"
****!
Ohh and 9 times out of 10. There is no child on board.
All they are for are for fat ugly mothers who have pink fluffly things all over their car.
"Please don't crash into me, crash into the guy in front of me as I HAVE A CHILD ON BOARD"
****!
Ohh and 9 times out of 10. There is no child on board.
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I do love this line. Does it increase your IQ having them?
But, as already highlighted, this particular action is utterly futile.
This has made me laugh, even though I have such a sign. As I said above, my rationale is nothing to do with affecting peoples driving just in that (hopefully) minute chance of having a crash it might make people look for the baby more than me.
Last time I looked I was not an ugly mother - the fat is debatable, although I prefer cuddly. I can assure that Mrs Snail is a fine women.
I do understand Fox's point that the Emergency Services will probably look anyway, but, in my opinion, it hurts no one (apart from Fox it would appear) and it could, one day, make a difference.
How could it though? I mean seriously what practical improvement in your childs safety could it achieve?
What car do you drive btw? Surely it would be sensible to choose a car with all the best safety equipment incase of an accident. Rather than pretending a sign will make things safer so you feel better about yourself.
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Increasing kids does not increase my IQ - never claimed it did. It has made me look at things very differently. My needs are no long the highest priority -I also hated the signs in the past for many of the reasons stated..... I do not claim to be cleverer - I just think differently. In my opinon, and that all it is, until you have them, you cannot appreciate the difference they make to you outlook.
It may be totally futile and I really really really hope that it is and you are right. But on that one day, if there is a crash, and it makes a minor difference and it helps my son then I will be grateful. If is doesn't, so be it - it only cost a couple of quid what harm does it do? Beyond annoying you of course
Oh, the sign does not make the car safer or alter the way people drive around me. I would not expect it to. My rationale is the (apparently debunked by Radio 2) argument that if there is a crash then there is a further (on top of the car seat, screaming child etc) indication for the Emergency services to look for a baby.
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If there is a screaming baby then surely the rescue services would hear it?
It's never going to make a difference. Although you are a parent, which makes you second only to Einstein in terms of knowledge (Us non parents could never understand), you should still be able to realise that Emergency Services will search an ENTIRE car every single time there is an accident they are called to. This is what they are trained to do. The sign is utterley irrelevent.
Infact instead of spending a fiver on a crap sign, donate a fiver to the Air Ambulance instead. Far, far more useful.
Infact instead of spending a fiver on a crap sign, donate a fiver to the Air Ambulance instead. Far, far more useful.
I don't think I am making myself clear here. Yes, there may be screaming baby, there may be a car seat all of which will immediately call to the Emergency Services.
However, he may not be screaming or the car seat may not be visible and you never know if seeing the sign may make them look harder at the back seat.
I appreciate all that has been said here and many good points about having (and to be fair mostly) not having such a sign. But, my fundamental tenet is this: in that extremely tiny chance of it making a difference after a crash and making people look a little harder at the wreck, what harm does it do?
I also rigorously take it out when the boy is not in the car.
Decreased rear visibility increasing the chances of you causing a horrific accident?
Only joking
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I can only speak from my own perspective I would not presume to dictate to others what they should and should not do.
Before I became a parent I did not understand how it feels and how you want to look after your child. I do not claim to be clever or have more knowledge and you may well be correct BUT it is my decision and for all you say in that tiny tiny chance that it makes them look in the back before the front and save him rather than me then so be it.
I can only speak from my own perspective I would not presume to dictate to others what they should and should not do.
Before I became a parent I did not understand how it feels and how you want to look after your child. I do not claim to be clever or have more knowledge and you may well be correct BUT it is my decision and for all you say in that tiny tiny chance that it makes them look in the back before the front and save him rather than me then so be it.
That is funny - we actually put in on the rear passengers window for this reasonDecreased rear visibility increasing the chances of you causing a horrific accident?
Only joking