Fudding Motorcyclist!...

rG-tom · 4 Oct 2008 at 12:39

here's a case of a car driver being an ****. Last night, making decent progress at about 1.30am on an empty 2 lane motorway, literally a car probably every 3 miles that i had to pass.....yes i was going quickly thats not the point, if it had been caused by a misjudgement of speed id put my hands up and say my fault, but it wasnt that.

Coming up behind a 54 plate audi a3, I indicated and pulled into the outside lane probably about 800 yards before the car, he could BLATANTLY see me, it was a straight road, I have pretty bright lights and it was a completely clear night, and at the last second just before i passed him, he decided to without indication, swerve into my lane and back into his again :| NO reason at all, nothing on the road, no exits or entrances, the guy was fully aware of what he was doing as he stuck his finger up as i went past (with pretty hot brakes now

first time ive had to emergency brake on the motorway for a LOOOONG time!)

Just cant fathom his logic, he just seemed to take offense to me driving quicker than he was on a clear dry empty motorway at 1.30am :s absolutely idiotic and couldve caused a serious accident if i'd rear ended him or swerved into the armco!

olv · 4 Oct 2008 at 12:45

Tom, probably just some absolute choad thinking he was teaching you a lesson or something ridiculous. some people are just absolute retards, he could have caused a serious accident.

PMKeates · 4 Oct 2008 at 12:55

rG-tom said:
he decided to without indication, swerve into my lane and back into his again :| NO reason at all, nothing on the road, no exits or entrances, the guy was fully aware of what he was doing as he stuck his finger up as i went past (with pretty hot brakes now first time ive had to emergency brake on the motorway for a LOOOONG time!)

I think I've only had that happen a couple of times. People seem to take offence to other people going faster; so much so, that they must die for their sins!

romperstomper · 4 Oct 2008 at 13:02

InvaderGIR said:
You spotted him, didn't judge his speed correctly and continued to manoeuvre in front of him as he was trying to go past you.
InvG

As above

Car drivers don't seem to appreciate that a crash for a biker often involves death or loss of limbs.

As for his speeding ,well we all know most big bikes often travel way over the limit not really a good excuse to nearly kill one .

Parsley · 4 Oct 2008 at 13:08

Mr Jack said:
Except that, in actual fact, baby-on-board signs do affect the behaviour of other drivers. It's stupid. It makes no sense; but it does work.

I am less likely to get annoyed at a car that is travelling slower than the road allows (40 in a 60... taking corners like a snail that really aren't all that tight and don't need to be taken slowly) when cars have signs like the Baby-On-Board one.

I'm not sure why really... I can understand parents not wanting to go around a slightly tighter corner quickly though as it will rock the kid around a bit in the seat.

Griffo · 4 Oct 2008 at 17:38

Corran said:
I am less likely to get annoyed at a car that is travelling slower than the road allows (40 in a 60... taking corners like a snail that really aren't all that tight and don't need to be taken slowly) when cars have signs like the Baby-On-Board one.

I'm not sure why really... I can understand parents not wanting to go around a slightly tighter corner quickly though as it will rock the kid around a bit in the seat.

Oh I am the opposite and get more annoyed, first they're going rather slowly, and secondly they're one of those great people who put the signs in their cars. :/ Doesn't make me drive any differently, I wait to get past like with any other slow bugger.

FlukeySpa: I'd have done the same thing
PaulyD: Unless you were with Flukey, in his tank bag or the idiot guys wife then you probably didn't see what happened. In an ideal (ok not ideal, crap) world then Flukey would hit pause, float over to the Roller and say "so, hey, you see what happened there?" and the guy would say "no, what happened there?" and Flukey would respond in a patient manner with "well sir, you almost killed me with your actions back that way 50 yards or so, when you <insert life endangering manoeuvre details>". Now the guy would have a think and realise what he'd done and say "oh lord I'm sorry, what would have just annoyed someone in a car could have killed you, and I've no excuse for driving without such consideration, even though I have a Roller, isn't that right darling?" and his wife would chirp up with "yes that is right Perry, oh and did you know he has erectile dysfunction?" and then everybody would laugh and carry on.

Flukester · 4 Oct 2008 at 18:12

PyroboyUK said:
This is true, there are a lot of bikers out there that can give us sensible ones a bad name. Not all of use go around racing at 100+ mph and pulling silly moves.

150+ is fine though

... i find it's quicker, ermmm by about 1/3

there are some real loons about, and i guess they only give bikers a bad name as because we're a minority it's assumed we all act like this (plus bikes are seen as many as a menace, when i reality they are just infact to dull or scared to own one)

road rage is bad... think everyone gets a little sometimes. i had a argument through window with some guy in 4*4 other day, he was fuming even though he'd just cut me up... in the end he yelled 'pull up over there', i agreed. he shot into layby and jumped out ready for his big fight, i just rode by pointing and laughing. 1 0 flukester

to quote bruce lee, the art of fighting without fighting lol

Flukester · 4 Oct 2008 at 18:14

Griffo said:
Oh I am the opposite and get more annoyed, first they're going rather slowly, and secondly they're one of those great people who put the signs in their cars. :/ Doesn't make me drive any differently, I wait to get past like with any other slow bugger.

FlukeySpa: I'd have done the same thing
PaulyD: Unless you were with Flukey, in his tank bag or the idiot guys wife then you probably didn't see what happened. In an ideal (ok not ideal, crap) world then Flukey would hit pause, float over to the Roller and say "so, hey, you see what happened there?" and the guy would say "no, what happened there?" and Flukey would respond in a patient manner with "well sir, you almost killed me with your actions back that way 50 yards or so, when you <insert life endangering manoeuvre details>". Now the guy would have a think and realise what he'd done and say "oh lord I'm sorry, what would have just annoyed someone in a car could have killed you, and I've no excuse for driving without such consideration, even though I have a Roller, isn't that right darling?" and his wife would chirp up with "yes that is right Perry, oh and did you know he has erectile dysfunction?" and then everybody would laugh and carry on.

i think you must have been there..

Fuzz · 4 Oct 2008 at 18:44

I have ON CAMERA some white van man swerving at me as I tried to overtake him on a country lane...

I was testing out my new video kit for an up and coming trackday so had it running on the way home from work, I was taking the scenic route instead of the motorway and this white van turned down the same lane as me, I knew it was dead straight so as I entered the lane also I stayed on the right to keep a clear view, yep all clear so shoved my foot down, white van man just shut the door on me

I used the verge instead of slowing down, gave him some abuse and kept going.
There really are some ***** about..

PaulyJay · 4 Oct 2008 at 19:19

Griffo said:
PaulyD: Unless you were with Flukey, in his tank bag or the idiot guys wife then you probably didn't see what happened. In an ideal (ok not ideal, crap) world then Flukey would hit pause, float over to the Roller and say "so, hey, you see what happened there?" and the guy would say "no, what happened there?" and Flukey would respond in a patient manner with "well sir, you almost killed me with your actions back that way 50 yards or so, when you <insert life endangering manoeuvre details>". Now the guy would have a think and realise what he'd done and say "oh lord I'm sorry, what would have just annoyed someone in a car could have killed you, and I've no excuse for driving without such consideration, even though I have a Roller, isn't that right darling?" and his wife would chirp up with "yes that is right Perry, oh and did you know he has erectile dysfunction?" and then everybody would laugh and carry on.

I personally find it very easy to just ignore people that cut me up rather than getting all stressed out about it and going postal. Stupid things like swearing at each other, or even causing actual damage to someone else's car/bike, can lead to much bigger things like having a fight (with someone that for all you know could be an axe wielding loon). And for what, some cutting you up...yeah really worth it isn't it.

Flukester said:
road rage is bad... think everyone gets a little sometimes. i had a argument through window with some guy in 4*4 other day, he was fuming even though he'd just cut me up... in the end he yelled 'pull up over there', i agreed. he shot into layby and jumped out ready for his big fight, i just rode by pointing and laughing. 1 0 flukester

Well aren't you the big man!
Sounds like you need to see someone about your tolerance levels!

digisatman · 4 Oct 2008 at 19:27

i can understand why motorcyclists get angry etc, its VERY easy to miss one even when you 'think' you are looking and not distracted etc.

atpbx · 4 Oct 2008 at 19:38

I dont think i could get my leg high enough to kick somebodies wing mirror off while ridng.

I can do side splits and front splits with either left or right leg and can almost get my leg vertical in an axe kick.
He would have had to of punched it.

Griffo · 4 Oct 2008 at 20:33

PaulyJay said:
I personally find it very easy to just ignore people that cut me up rather than getting all stressed out about it and going postal. Stupid things like swearing at each other, or even causing actual damage to someone else's car/bike, can lead to much bigger things like having a fight (with someone that for all you know could be an axe wielding loon). And for what, some cutting you up...yeah really worth it isn't it.

Well aren't you the big man!
Sounds like you need to see someone about your tolerance levels!

Do you ride?

Being cut up in a car can mean mostly annoyance or damaged car. As has already been stated it can and does mean death on a bike, which is what gets bikers annoyed. Do you not think you'd want to express your annoyance if some idiot almost killed you? Or just carry on, what with us being unemotional machines like sewing machines. Surely you can understand the mavity of such a situation, almost dead v. a bit annoyed and a 50/50 claim so you lose your NCB. I think it's to be expected people will vent. Flukey here vented with a finger, which was pretty decent of him, the moron... hang on I'm repeating myself, never mind I hope you get the point.

Now, sticking your finger up at the woman driving along the bit between the M4 and whatever the hell it is for using her mobile and swerving all over the shop, that's just not acceptable at all.

Griffo · 4 Oct 2008 at 20:35

atpbx said:
I dont think i could get my leg high enough to kick somebodies wing mirror off while ridng.

I can do side splits and front splits with either left or right leg and can almost get my leg vertical in an axe kick.
He would have had to of punched it.

Yeah, I can't see how it'd work, though I have heard of people kicking mirrors off before, whether or not it's true I don't know, but will maybe try and find out! (I'll forget and not find out at all)

PardonTheWait · 4 Oct 2008 at 21:31

rG-tom said:
at the last second just before i passed him, he decided to without indication, swerve into my lane and back into his again :| NO reason at all, nothing on the road, no exits or entrances, the guy was fully aware of what he was doing as he stuck his finger up as i went past
Just cant fathom his logic, he just seemed to take offense to me driving quicker than he was on a clear dry empty motorway at 1.30am :s absolutely idiotic and couldve caused a serious accident if i'd rear ended him or swerved into the armco!

Now, I'm not much of a one for fighting, and I'm not very big, and I'm not very tough, but I would have completely lost my **** at him. He'd be at LEAST minus a wing mirror, and I'd probably have followed him home and battered him to death in front of his children.

By battered him to death in front of his children I mean got beaten up by him, but my intentions would have been otherwise.

That is recklessly endangering another human being's life for NO other reason than either jealousy or some ridiculous sense of deadly vigilantism.

PaulyJay said:
I personally find it very easy to just ignore people that cut me up rather than getting all stressed out about it and going postal.

Of course it's not necessarily right to get so angry when people cut you up, but on the bike... it's different. When someone cuts you up in a spiteful fashion on the bike, it's very easy to find it downright offensive, because you're all too aware at all times on a bike how easy it is for you to get ****ed up or killed.

I'm not a hugely stroppy person, but when I'm cut up on my bike I at least gently fume, and when I used to get cut up with my girlfriend riding pillion I used to get really really ****ed off.

bikes · 5 Oct 2008 at 03:24

Mohinder said:
I think what some people fail to grasp is that when you cut up a car driver you annoy them, but when you cut up a biker you could quite easily get him seriously hurt.

Never a truer word spoken mate.

@PaulyJay
Just by reading your posts, you seem to come across as a total anti biker dude......I hope I never have the misfortune of meeting you on the road.

But there again, maybe I should just ride my bike one handed, ready to smash your mirror off with my keyboard!

Vasquez · 5 Oct 2008 at 03:54

I had someone pull out of a junction on me and the only reason they still have a wing mirror is they pulled off down a slip road after I caught up with them, theres nothing more frightening than almost being killed by a silly car driver.