Piracy- it's killing PC gaming

NightSt@lk3r · 12 Oct 2008 at 12:58

Ulfhedjinn said:
That statement is pretty much completely incorrect.

I agree RIP's are so much less hassle to install than retail games.

Darkwave · 12 Oct 2008 at 12:59

NightSt@lk3r said:
I agree RIP's are so much less hassle to install than retail games.

That's funny because I never had to extract anything or install a (particular) type of image mounting software, some requiring their own driver to be installed, to install a legitimate game copy.

NightSt@lk3r · 12 Oct 2008 at 13:02

Ulfhedjinn said:
That's funny because I never had to extract anything or install a (particular) type of image mounting software, some requiring their own driver to be installed, to install a legitimate game copy.

Then you have not quite grasped what a RIP is.

Darkwave · 12 Oct 2008 at 13:03

NightSt@lk3r said:
Then you have not quite grasped what a RIP is.

If I download a game rip (i.e. an ISO or other format such as CCD or NRG) I have to mount it to run it, sometimes with very specific software, or extract the whole thing to a messy directory and install it that way, which you can't even do with a lot of them as it will ask for the CD.

I've never had to do anything of the sort to install a legitimate retail copy of a game.

I'm sorry, but you might as well leave before you start digging a hole here.

Burt · 12 Oct 2008 at 13:05

As a game developer you all disgust me and I demand to be compensated for the pennies you may or may not have cost me.

*blissfully ignores the games he may or may not have pirated*

ShakenNstirred · 12 Oct 2008 at 13:12

i dont know if its still the same in the states now
but a few years ago when i went to the states
i found the the pc games had no copy protection on them
like we have in the uk, so everyone was copying games over there

skullman · 12 Oct 2008 at 13:13

Ulfhedjinn said:
If I download a game rip (i.e. an ISO or other format such as CCD or NRG) I have to mount it to run it, sometimes with very specific software, or extract the whole thing to a messy directory and install it that way, which you can't even do with a lot of them as it will ask for the CD.

I've neevr had to do anything of the sort to install a legitimate retail copy of a game.

I'm sorry, but you might as well leave before you start digging a hole here.

isnt a RIP a cut down version of a game though? Not quite the same. Usually a very simple installation.

NightSt@lk3r · 12 Oct 2008 at 13:13

Ulfhedjinn said:
If I download a game rip (i.e. an ISO or other format such as CCD or NRG) I have to mount it to run it, sometimes with very specific software, or extract the whole thing to a messy directory and install it that way, which you can't even do with a lot of them as it will ask for the CD.
.

A RIP is not an ISO, it is the files needed to play the game zipped up into one achieve, all you need to do is unzip it and run the Game, no mounting or installing required.

Darkwave · 12 Oct 2008 at 13:15

skullman said:
isnt a RIP a cut down version of a game though? Not quite the same. Usually a very simple installation.

A rip is just what you get when you "rip" the data from the disc, same as when you rip music from a CD and it comes out as a folder of MP3 files, except games and stuff come out as an archive (.iso, .ccd, .mdf/.mds etc. depending on what software you use to rip it).

That archive needs to be run through a virtual drive to install the game, to trick it into thinking it's off a CD, and depending on the type of archive you might to need a specific imaging software to do it. Sometimes this software will need to install a driver on your PC and reboot before you can use it.

NightSt@lk3r said:
A RIP is not an ISO, it is the files needed to play the game zipped up into one achieve, all you need to do is unzip it and run the Game, no mounting or installing required.

Find me one game distributed like this and I'll give you a lolly. I don't know if you have just kidded yourself into believing this, or if you are just spreading misinformation, but I have laid out how it's almost always done.

Shamikebab · 12 Oct 2008 at 13:16

pirating a game on PC is no more difficult than installing a standard game.

Amnesia · 12 Oct 2008 at 13:17

NokkonWud said:
Indeed, piracy is on consoles, notably the Wii and Xbox360, however for the Xbox360 users have to extract the CD Drive, mess with firmwares etc.. and remove the warranty from their only component, the console.

try your local computer shop...they will do it all for you for about 20 quid and even put the seal back in place incase you need to send it back to microsoft for repairs.

NightSt@lk3r · 12 Oct 2008 at 13:19

Ulfhedjinn said:
A rip is just what you get when you "rip" the data from the disc, same as when you rip music from a CD and it comes out as a folder of MP3 files, except games and stuff come out as an archive (.iso, .ccd, .mdf/.mds etc. depending on what software you use to rip it).

That archive needs to be run through a virtual drive to install the game, to trick it into thinking it's off a CD.

Find me one game distributed like this and I'll give you a lolly. I don't know if you have just kidded yourself into believing this, or if you are just spreading misinformation, but I have laid out how it's almost always done.

Haha omg my sides are hurting.

Darkwave · 12 Oct 2008 at 13:21

Shamikebab said:
pirating a game on PC is no more difficult than installing a standard game.

*Facepalm.*

NightSt@lk3r said:
Haha omg my sides are hurting.

Loving the retort, where's my list of pirate games that install easier than the retail version?

Edit: I think I've been trolled and not realised it, 10/10 sir.

NightSt@lk3r · 12 Oct 2008 at 13:25

Ulfhedjinn said:
loving the retort, where's my list of games that install easier than the retail version?

Linking to a warez site will get me banned, and we don't want that now do we.

Lets just say every game is available in RIP format, heck i have a 920MB rip of Pure open in my browser right now.

Shamikebab · 12 Oct 2008 at 13:25

Ulfhedjinn said:
*Facepalm.*

You can facepalm all you want, its just as easy. Take disc out of box and palce in drive takes just as long as mount image.

Darkwave · 12 Oct 2008 at 13:27

NightSt@lk3r said:
Linking to a warez site will get me banned, and we don't want that now do we.

I thought I asked you for a list of games, not where to download them.

NightSt@lk3r said:
Lets just say every game is available in RIP format, heck i have a 920MB rip of Pure open in my browser right now.

Seeing nothing on usenet, all split RARs of disc images.

Shamikebab said:
Take disc out of box and palce in drive takes just as long as mount image.

I take it you pay (lol) someone to pirate your games for you then, maybe someone with a car boot full?

I'm talking about running a game you've downloaded yourself, for free, which most PC pirates do.

Amnesia · 12 Oct 2008 at 13:31

skullptura is quite popular

NightSt@lk3r · 12 Oct 2008 at 13:32

Ulfhedjinn said:
Seeing nothing on usenet, all split RARs of disc images.

Then look harder, i got

*list removed*

on the first page of a warez site.

I removed the list as it is probably against the rules to give release names.

Darkwave · 12 Oct 2008 at 13:33

memory said:
skullptura is quite popular

I prefer to have full control over what I've downloaded, call it paranoia.

There's a reason skullptura rips are not on usenet, period, only on torrents.

NightSt@lk3r: See above.

Tefal · 12 Oct 2008 at 13:36

Shamikebab said:
pirating a game on PC is no more difficult than installing a standard game.

yeah, if you're going to count having to dl deamon tools as a massive extra effort, then you really should count having to put the disk in every time as a far greater effort + installing any crap DRM, or having to connect to the internet to activate,.

Still pirated games are so much easier to uninstall, no unremoveable root kit style jobbies, which I'm pretty sure our dear ulf has fallen foul to