Man Utd - Best Squad Ever?
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I know we paid £17m, but there isn't much in it between £17 and £20m, it was rounded up.
I never compared them. I said I'd rather have bought Young than Berbatov.
Why not? It was my opinion, nothing more, nothing less.
That's because Nani is naturally a RW player who has been forced onto the left in his career (much like Irwin was a RB, but was forced into LB).
I did say to a lesser extent as the 4th player who could cover there.
Seems the most logical, but then why move arguably the form LB in Europe out of position for an 18 year old, untested kid (or 19 as the case will be)?
I wouldn't say he's better, but he's more versatile for sure.
Berbatov isn't worth £30m, arguably worth half-that, but at 27 years old you pay what they're worth to the team, for someone like Young (23/24 IIRC) you're paying for the potential and versatility.
Every big money transfer at the moment seems to involve people all jumping on the "Player X isn't worth Z million!" bandwagon. Can't we just accept that prices have gone up, or better yet, that sale value isn't an accurate representation of a player's ability?
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Pretty much the best way to put it.
As for not being able to mention Young and Berb in the same sentence, 18 assists and 12ish goals that Young got last season put him into the catagory of incredibly effective good player. While I rate Berbatov very very highly, I wouldn't say he was better. he's better......... at what he does, but that doesn't necessarily mean he's the better player. Frankly they are both players that you would be hard pushed to not start in most games for any top 4 side, and really for any side in the world.
The reason I would have loved Arsenal to get Young is he's versatile but still plays the role he's given. He can play as a lone striker if you tell him too and he'll hold it up. if you play him left wing and tell him to hit they byline and cross, he does, if you tell him to play right wing, he does. He can play really any attacking position and doesn't, as so many players do(Joe Cole) insist on playing partially the position they are needed in and partialy how they prefer. Getting Gerrard, or Joe Cole to stay on the left or right when asked to is simply impossible, they want to play in the middle and Cole never stops cutting in. He's a REAL versatile player is what I'm getting at. You can put Gerrard anyway, but he'll always play as a central mid play and gravitate towards the centre, he's not really versatile at all.
Theo Walcott is being praised all over at the moment, but he's really only had two effective games and has been pushed about like a little girl in the rest. Young is, at this stage, far more effective than Walcott with a much more substantial record scoring/assists. I can't understand the love for Walcott with the complete and utter lack of any recognition for Young. I DO like Walcott a lot, I'm not saying he's bad, just saying considering how much he's rated Young really is better at least for now but no one went for him.
FOr the thread, this Man U squad isn't anywhere near as good as the previous teams. They've got a lot of depth, so they could survive more injuries, but thats it, the other big Man U teams were just stronger and much better, if Berbatov comes good though he'll be a major difference as a simple out and out goal scorer up the top has been missing.
Is he? Almost 28 years old, lazy, slow and not exactly a force in the air. We paid a shade under £31m for him. We bought all 4 of our greatest ever strike force for £24m combined.
We could have spent far more wisely than Berbatov.
No, because it's annoying when you clearly overpay because your short-sighted coaching staff decide on 1 transfer, screw around all summer, then over pay on the final day when something isn't going to go your way.
Then again, it could be worse, we could have spent over £10m on Elmander.
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One thing I always wonder... how many games would you not have won had Solskjaer not come on
quite a while still I think, hes not even been at villa for 2 seasons has he?
Just had a look, hes got 3 years left on his contract, though villa are offering him a new one for 4-5 and upping his wage since hes apparently getting peanuts.
Hes only 23 too btw.
One thing I always wonder... how many games would you not have won had Solskjaer not come on
He had a better scoring ratio starting games than coming off the bench, just he had a knack of scoring important ones and people like to remember his 4 against Forest.
I'm not saying he should be first choice at the moment but he's a good option when another player needs a rest or to have on the bench when we need someone to change the game. Good to have him for the Champions League too as he does always seem to turn it on in Europe...might be because the pace of the game isn't as hectic as the Premier League.
Absolutely, in Europe Giggs still has a definite fear factor. Where players don't necessarily get as close, Giggs' supreme technique often shows.
The problem is that Ferguson likes to start Giggs and Scholes because he feels their experience is needed. However, he can't use that excuse for our captain Gary Neville any more.
The problem is that Ferguson likes to start Giggs and Scholes because he feels their experience is needed. However, he can't use that excuse for our captain Gary Neville any more
.No, you're right, I think Nev's time has passed. You've got to admire his loyalty and dedication but he's not the same since he got injured. It's Brown's place now and hopefully Rafael can put pressure on him for the place in the future.
ummmm because SAF didnt try and buy him ...... (after all Man Utd try and buy the best available whether we have similar players or not)
He has been even less impressive on the RW when him and R have swapped wings mid-game etc
I dont disagree - but personally this would allow for a better balance to the side than Evra at the back and Nani ahead of him (given that we are unlikely to be spending huge sums on players in the near future with the financial markets how they are currently)
Are you purposefully being stupid? You know as well as I do that any past player would have been much more costly than when we actually bought them - for instance the £19m we paid for RVN would easily be £25m-£30m now adays, and the price paid for Cantona would be nearer 10-15 times what we paid (given that even moderate players get transfered for that amount)
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So if Utd don't try and sign a player that means that the player in question isn't as good as the one's Utd have?
Messi must be rubbish then
You purposefully twist my words - so Im not going to bother anymore
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Young is a potential target though, Messi is clearly not. I see what you're saying but we could easily have gone after Young.