OH NO Another BMW Thread!!

Funny how many people say this until they use satnav all the time.

I can get roughly where I want to go without satnav, and did for years, but being able to go to the door of the house you want to find in the middle of a housing estate where all the houses look the same = great.
And even better, to be warned of a traffic jam up ahead and be routed around it :)
 
Funny how many people say this until they use satnav all the time.

I can get roughly where I want to go without satnav, and did for years, but being able to go to the door of the house you want to find in the middle of a housing estate where all the houses look the same = great.

Exactly. Especialyl when they are good enough to tell you which house on a 6 mile A road.
 
Has the ability to read a road atlas been lost amongst new generation? Satnav is not the reason not to buy a car. Somehow I regularly manage to find myself at the destination I want without it, it must be magic.

When there are other cars with sat nav available of course it is a valid reason not to buy a car. I'm perfectly capable of using wind up windows but given a choice I'd get a car with electric ones.
 
I think you could get that into teens in the current climate.


I was wondering that myself!

Interesting debate on the Sat Nav however and as luck would have it I have a tom tom but that can always be ebayed! Looking at those dash pics the addition of the Sat Nav and bit's and pieces could be a nice little add on. Plus i'm a sucker for gadgets.

This would be a car that would have to last 5 years minimum and I suppose anything that could add to resale would be useful. I'm assuming that considering this option would add at least another 1k to prices that I've seen at the moment?

So some questions?

1. What are BMW dealers like - am I likely to be able to do a deal I'm used to Ford and they usually buckle somewhat when you start to haggle!

2. Are their any car specific questions I should ask - i.e. are their any known faults on these cars?

3. I'm still concerned that the 335 might be a little overkill, how do the lesser models fair i.e 325?

4. I do 10 -12k miles at the most a year, as I see it that's not really enough for the cost of diesel - so should I discount diesel completely? Most of my runs are fairly short Say between a mile and 10 miles usually - and then a few 300 trips a year to the New Forest (Other halves family live there)

5. If I did opt of rthe sav what's this I - drive like, again I've only really seen this panned on TV as fiddly and hard to get used to? Do you beg to differ.

6. A question of curiosity - what's that little fin on the back just sitting toward the back of the roof - I always thought that was the sat nav receiver thingymebob - clearly not in this case lol

7. What are BMW Servicing costs? And how much would a new shoe cost? These are 19" My Focus only takes 15" I Think....

8. Would 2006 be a sweet spot to pick something like this up in terms of depreciation? (What was the cost of these Brand new?)

Sorry for being a cluless oath but I respect many people's opinion on here....
 
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how about a 535d, they seem to be changing hands for v little.

Not so keen - had a look on pistonheads and there was and m5 going for 25k I almost fell off my chair - think it might be a Cat D Insurance job though.... Surley these cannot be that cheap???? (Certainly not cheap to run?!)

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/618555.htm

Must resist.....................
 
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The 335i with Satnav is this one - the only one this dealer seems to have

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Not such a looker for some reason!

The Gumph here is

Black Dakota leather, Adaptive Headlights, Armrest. front with sliding adjustment, Automatic transmission and paddles, Bluetooth phone prep + telematics, BMW ConnectedDrive-Assist, Brushed Aluminium Trim, CD changer, Comfort Access, Ext. mirrors - folding. auto dimming, Extended storage, High-beam Assistant, Leather interior, Model designation deletion, Navigation-system Professional, Park Distance Control front, SA3 Pricing Rule for 620 Voice Control, Voice Control, Sports Suspension, Remote Control Alarm, First Aid Kit & Triangle, Auto-Dim Interior Mirror, Elec Fr Seats + Driver Memory, Sports Seats, Rain Sensor, Xenon Headlamps, Headlamp Washer System, Automatic Air Conditioning

£23k 18k on the clock same year as the other one 2006 although I think is a late 2006 one.
 
Wheels have a lot to do with the change in look, the top ones are much nicer.

true and colour that Sea Grey just isn't working for me?!

Interestingly there is a decent variance in price between models, another 335 of similar spec but 2007 (23k on the clock) £33k ???

That's this one - for some bizarre reason I like the Red interior

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33k is way outta my league though :(

Would 2006 be a sweet spot to pick something like this up in terms of depreciation? - This can be added the the multitude of questions posed a few posts ago lol
 
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Looks wise, that is the dogs nuts :)

This.

My next car should be one of these E92 coupes and considering they go for 22k now for well specced dealer ones imagine what they will go for in a few years time!

WOO!
 
The difference is SE and Sport. SE sucks.

It actually makes little difference on a 335 Coupe because the most important features of M Sport - the suspension and seats - are standard fit anyway. And, arguably, an SE with the Aerokit lip on the front looks as good as an M Sport in Coupe guise anyway. I dont think the angular front bumper of the M Sport suits the Coupes lines as well as the more rounded Aerokit on the SE.
 
I'm not normally a fan of the looks of the newer BMW's but the top one in black is rather nice. Other than that, I'd say don't rush into getting the nearest good deal, I'd rather wait for the right one to come along with all the extras (idrive, xenons, etc.) you're after. :)
 
I recently bought an E90 330i SE (take that all SE haters!) so I'll try and comment on some of the questions where there is some comparison

The idrive does take some getting used to. If you get a model with the voice activation function most of the main controls you need to operate whilst driving can be handled through that (plus the other functions on the steering wheel) so not so much need to fiddle with it whilst driving. Once you get used to navigating around the menus its not too bad, but really I dont use it much whilst actually driving, just set it up before you leave.

Specifically on the Satnav, if you are used to a TomTom its quite different, there is no postcode entry so you end up putting the whole address in. Once running it gives almost identical instructions to my TomTom.

The fin on the back contains I believe the antennae for the phone prep and the GPS receiver if you have one.

Only you can answer whether a 335 diesel is overkill for what you want it for. In terms of cost saving on fuel, for 10-12k a year its going to be hardly any different from a petrol. The residuals will likely be better however. I've not driven a diesel BMW but the 3 litre petrol engine was more than enough for me (I also came from a focus).

Tyres arent cheap, but if you can afford to buy a 20k car then the cost of the tyres shouldnt bother you too much. Neither should the servicing costs.

I'd definitely recommend having a go in both sport and SE configurations if you consider something other than the 335. I actually found I preferred the non-sport seats, and its personal preference as to whether you prefer the sports suspension. The Sport bits do make the car look much more aggresive imo (another reason I went for an SE, the wife didnt like the Sport look so much, meh lol).

For comparison pricewise, I bought a July 2005 330i manual with 45k on the clock, 1 owner in mint condition with Professional SatNav, Bluetooth prep, Voice Activation, Ipod Connector, Black Dakota Leather, metallic Black Sapphire paint for 12k plus my battered Y reg Focus.
 
I recently bought an E90 330i SE (take that all SE haters!) so I'll try and comment on some of the questions where there is some comparison

The idrive does take some getting used to. If you get a model with the voice activation function most of the main controls you need to operate whilst driving can be handled through that (plus the other functions on the steering wheel) so not so much need to fiddle with it whilst driving. Once you get used to navigating around the menus its not too bad, but really I dont use it much whilst actually driving, just set it up before you leave.

Specifically on the Satnav, if you are used to a TomTom its quite different, there is no postcode entry so you end up putting the whole address in. Once running it gives almost identical instructions to my TomTom.

The fin on the back contains I believe the antennae for the phone prep and the GPS receiver if you have one.

Only you can answer whether a 335 diesel is overkill for what you want it for. In terms of cost saving on fuel, for 10-12k a year its going to be hardly any different from a petrol. The residuals will likely be better however. I've not driven a diesel BMW but the 3 litre petrol engine was more than enough for me (I also came from a focus).

Tyres arent cheap, but if you can afford to buy a 20k car then the cost of the tyres shouldnt bother you too much. Neither should the servicing costs.

I'd definitely recommend having a go in both sport and SE configurations if you consider something other than the 335. I actually found I preferred the non-sport seats, and its personal preference as to whether you prefer the sports suspension. The Sport bits do make the car look much more aggresive imo (another reason I went for an SE, the wife didnt like the Sport look so much, meh lol).

For comparison pricewise, I bought a July 2005 330i manual with 45k on the clock, 1 owner in mint condition with Professional SatNav, Bluetooth prep, Voice Activation, Ipod Connector, Black Dakota Leather, metallic Black Sapphire paint for 12k plus my battered Y reg Focus.

Cheers for that reply, very imformative!

I take you're point on buying a £20k car you need to be able to fund the running costs but I would still like to know what BMW's cost in terms of servicing and parts costs should anything go wrong - I'm assuming about £300 for the service and also the fact that being a modern BMW this has run flats and tyres are going to be circa £200 a pop?

Can someone also comment on BMW dealers please?
 
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