Judging by someof the lemons he has bought, thats not strictly true.
Man Utd - Best Squad Ever?
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Judging by someof the lemons he has bought, thats not strictly true.
lol... no, we've bought a LOT of rubbish. Hell, we went for Veron over Vieira.
I wouldn't say so, I think he delivers a better ball from the right.
Purposefully stupid? Well, I guess I imagined the massive fees for Buffon, Vieri, Figo and Zidane in the past. All of which cost more than RVN but happened years before. So no, I'm not being stupid.
Also, I mentioned our greatest strikeforce ever which was undoubtedly '99 and Cantona wasn't a part of that.
You keep making such bold comments in reply but seem to get plenty of facts wrong time and time again.
No, not in the world. In the Premiership.
my reasoning is that berbatov is better than young because he just is. not saying that young is a bad player either.
and to be honest i'd stack up ferguson's transfer record against any of his rivals.
I can also see what frank is saying as iirc we did break a british transfer record for andy cole and i believe yorke was the 2nd highest british transfer at the time of purchase (behind shearer?) the other 2 came in at more reasonable prices but certainly not inconsequential in the market conditions at the time.
and to be honest i'd stack up ferguson's transfer record against any of his rivals.
I can also see what frank is saying as iirc we did break a british transfer record for andy cole and i believe yorke was the 2nd highest british transfer at the time of purchase (behind shearer?) the other 2 came in at more reasonable prices but certainly not inconsequential in the market conditions at the time.
"He just is" - Phenomenal reasoning.
I could give you 20 reasons why Young is better than Berbatov, I could also give you 20 reasons why Berbatov is better than Young, but to say Berbatov is better "because he just is", is absolutely ludicrous.
I could give you 20 reasons why Young is better than Berbatov, I could also give you 20 reasons why Berbatov is better than Young, but to say Berbatov is better "because he just is", is absolutely ludicrous.
They were never going to be the same kind of player anyway - without even considering how many times Viera had mucked Utd around
I misread your post as strikers rather than strike force - but even so Yorke, Cole Sheringham and Ole would be worth a king's ransom in todays market (if their level of performance today was similar to ten years ago) so its stupid compariing the worth of one strike force to another from a different decade
Your reasoning is equally as "questionable"
It doesnt matter whether you compare Hughes, Cantona, Cole, RVN, - they were all bargains compared to Tevez's rumoured price, Rooney, Berbatov or whoever - but anyone here can only guess at how much Mark, Eric, Andy or Ruud would be worth today if we were buying them as if their ability during their initial purchase (before anyone has any "clever" remarks about buying RVN back from Real)
Its impossible to compare even the original 19m we paid a handful of years ago for RVN, that would probably be more like £25m+ now adays
Looking at it from a playing perspective - blast it the striker's name has slippped my mind - South American with long curly hair at best an average premiership striker moved to spain (Villareal?) three seasons ago and was top striker in his first season - and he was given enough chances by SAF and never showed anything like that ability/quality
I havent got any facts wrong (apart from misreading a word) - we have differed on opinion thats all
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it really isn't, you can easily say that some players just are better than others. you've simply got your bee in your bonnet about berbatov and seem inclined not to give him a fair chance.
I've got no problem with anybody saying Berbatov's better but to say Berbatov's better simply because Fergie bid for him rather than Young is rubbish.
There's nowt wrong with Fergie's transfer record. Some players came to OT and simply couldn't handle the pressure. There's an expectation on United players simply because of where they are. From the moment you sign to the moment you leave you're constantly in the spotlight (one of the downsides of being at the biggest club in the world) and you are expected to win every game...and in style. Some players couldn't handle it, Forlan's the prime example. As soon as he went to VillaReal the pressure was off and it just happened for him. Veron aws one of the top midfielders in the world before he came to United and indeed, in that first season showed signs of how good he could be, but ultimately he couldn't hack it and wasn't the same player even after he left, and at least we managed to claw a lot of his transfer fee back at chelsea!
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No, just that his record is no worse than most managers.
no but over a period of time i'd wager his record is up there with at the top level. he's signed some duds. but apart from a dodgy period a few years back overall it's been very strong.
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Are you trying to say he has? The heretic has outed himself, burn him now.
Of course he has signed bad players, or at least players who haven't lived up to expectations. For instance at the time Juan Sebastian Veron was signed he was probably one of the best midfielders in the World, he just failed to meet expecations in a fairly major way once he was signed. Other players were possibly never going to be good enough but were signed anyway. That doesn't mean he has a bad transfer record, just that he isn't infallible and I can't think of a manager who is - Souness and his sterling signings aside.
He signed Loius Saha, complete and utter stinker. That's the only poor choice Ferguson has made in recent memory (but then again I have the memory of a goldfish!)
saha could have been a very good choice in terms of style of play but the injuries were ridiculous. there was a period of the djemba twins, liam miller, bellion and a few others where it was a bit below par and there are high profile ones like veron. but veron was a world class player he just really didn't fit in with us. oddly i think he'd fit in a lot better if he'd have joined our current squad.
Nonsense. You could say Berbatov is better than Zamora and no one would blink, but to say he's better than Young 'because he just is' is nothing more than incredible ridiculousness and complete and utter niavity.
You seem to think I've never watched Berbatov in his 2 seasons at Spurs before us (as well as his woeful performances for us bar Blackburn).