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i7 not looking all that super
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The Core i7 CPUs are similarly priced to the C2Q CPUs... it is the mobo and memory that is more expensive - I would say approx £250 more expensive compared to a C2Q rig. So if you are spending £2500, then get a Core i7 setup for the sake of 10% difference!
I am just reluctant to splash the cash on an I7 system that may not be much more then what i have and looks not saying it will but looks like it could have allsorts of problems for the early adopters. I prefer to spend more time on my pc having fun and doing what i need too not troubleshooting problems.
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Unless that mobo comes in at £100-120 and DDR3 prices drop by 40-50% its gonna be temping to not go yorkfield + 775 platform.
I just bought a MacPro now, instead of waiting for the refresh because the refresh is almost guaranteed to have i7, and DDR3. So yes it would be a little bit better in terms of performance, but the DDR3 ECC is going to cost a massive amount of money.
So instead I went for the current one, with DDR2 ECC -- still expensive compared to run-off the mill DDR2 (twice the price), but at least it's affordable.
So instead I went for the current one, with DDR2 ECC -- still expensive compared to run-off the mill DDR2 (twice the price), but at least it's affordable.
Fixed.
Really? I never realised!
I think there are more gamers on this forum than those who actually use their computers as a tool, so that majority will receive little benefit from i7. Those who rely on their computers for work will have to decide if the extra outlay is worth any time saving...
The Asus X58 was listed at £252.61 when it was on the site (though this may drop when freely available); 6GB of 1600 MHz DDR3 will cost £211.49 (or less). This realistically compares to £146 for a decent P45 mobo and £60-80 for 4GB of 1066 MHz DDR2. Adjusting for 6GB of DDR2 (£105) to make the comparison fair, the difference is £213.
Just noticed that the Asus P6T Deluxe Intel X58 mobos are back up in the shop... plus a £20 price increase! 
That makes he difference £233... that's using decent memory and mobo... obviously using different kit will change the maths, but I selected items that I would choose if I were to build a C2Q or Core i7 rig.
That makes he difference £233... that's using decent memory and mobo... obviously using different kit will change the maths, but I selected items that I would choose if I were to build a C2Q or Core i7 rig.
I wouldn't expect prices to fall though, more likely to keep going up although that applies to 775 stuff as well.
The pound is in freefall at the moment.
http://www.exchange-rates.org/history/USD/GBP/G/30
As of today it is $1.6015 to the pound. On the 27th September it was $1.87. That is a drop of 14% in less than a month and 6.5% since Monday alone.
It wasn't that long ago it was just over $2 to the pound.
In reality a 14% fall equates to a 17% increase in cost over here. eg a $500 item would have cost £267.37 on the 27th September and today would cost £312.20.
In reality all these echange rate changes have not feed through yet on the current stock (ocuk will have agreed the price of current stock before this weeks fall of 6.5%). If the Asus is back in at £20 today, the next stock they get will be another £20 more assuming the rate doesn't fall further which is unlikely.
Rates are expected to plummet even further.
That means currently, 775 stuff which is in stock has not actually gone up whereas the i7 stuff is all going be far more expensive. Therefore even the i7 cpus are going to be much more money than the current q9xxx chips.
I would imagine then that a like for like kit with same quantity of memory is more than likely to be way in excess of £300 difference.
For something which only gives you gains in applications and not games, £300 is a lot of money to spend elsewhere in the rig such as a 2nd graphics card, a bigger monitor, more memory, faster processor or even having two monitors.
The sweet point for buying a new system price wise was about 2-3 weeks ago although this week is still good as you can beat any exchange price increases on current stock. I would expect ALL computer items to be 10% more expensive in less than two weeks as stock gets bought and replaced.
Throw in ocuk 666 deal with 6% off and you are looking at 16% more next week or so. A lot of money if spending £2500 (£400).
The pound is in freefall at the moment.
http://www.exchange-rates.org/history/USD/GBP/G/30
As of today it is $1.6015 to the pound. On the 27th September it was $1.87. That is a drop of 14% in less than a month and 6.5% since Monday alone.
It wasn't that long ago it was just over $2 to the pound.
In reality a 14% fall equates to a 17% increase in cost over here. eg a $500 item would have cost £267.37 on the 27th September and today would cost £312.20.
In reality all these echange rate changes have not feed through yet on the current stock (ocuk will have agreed the price of current stock before this weeks fall of 6.5%). If the Asus is back in at £20 today, the next stock they get will be another £20 more assuming the rate doesn't fall further which is unlikely.
Rates are expected to plummet even further.
That means currently, 775 stuff which is in stock has not actually gone up whereas the i7 stuff is all going be far more expensive. Therefore even the i7 cpus are going to be much more money than the current q9xxx chips.
I would imagine then that a like for like kit with same quantity of memory is more than likely to be way in excess of £300 difference.
For something which only gives you gains in applications and not games, £300 is a lot of money to spend elsewhere in the rig such as a 2nd graphics card, a bigger monitor, more memory, faster processor or even having two monitors.
The sweet point for buying a new system price wise was about 2-3 weeks ago although this week is still good as you can beat any exchange price increases on current stock. I would expect ALL computer items to be 10% more expensive in less than two weeks as stock gets bought and replaced.
Throw in ocuk 666 deal with 6% off and you are looking at 16% more next week or so. A lot of money if spending £2500 (£400).
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Have you factored in the stock market turmoil in Asia too? They will want to keep the components flowing, so will reduce the prices accordingly. Swings and roundabouts I would say. As we all know, in the grand scheme of things and over the course of time computer components always get cheaper. House prices were the only thing that ever went up......now there is a statement if I ever saw one.
Have you factored in the stock market turmoil in Asia too? They will want to keep the components flowing, so will reduce the prices accordingly. Swings and roundabouts I would say. As we all know, in the grand scheme of things and over the course of time computer components always get cheaper. House prices were the only thing that ever went up......now there is a statement if I ever saw one.
True but that will take longer to filter through than the immediate effect of exchange rates.
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nothing special there
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Not especially, nice to have SLi on the Intel though.