BBC Issue apology over Ross/Brand 'Prank'

I was refering to the ethnic bit, but yeah fair enough.

Tbh it's between Brand, Ross and Sax. Listening to the whole thing it's quite clearly meant in jest anyway even if it is close to the bone.
 
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I'm sorry but you can't deny Ross makes an excellent or at least interesting character for interviewing. I always prefered him to Parkinson.

Do you mean as an interviewer or interviewee? As an interviewer, like I say, he's accasionally funny, but a one trick pony that's become a bit predictable now. There are plenty of more far more talented 'edgy' presenters who could step into his shoes - Simon Amstel springs to mind.

As an interviewee, I cant think of anything of note he's done in his life that would be worth listening to. :confused:
 
I can't believe anyone could possibly prefer Woss to Parky :confused:

Woss is OK. Probably above average. Parky was the best.
 
What do people want from Ross and Brand because of this though? The people saying they should be sacked probably didn't like them to start with so should just do what they've always done - not listen or watch them.

If we look at the whole thing factually all they did was leave a few messages, even if the taste was questionable at the end of the day all Sax has to do is hit the delete button.

Listening to the whole "interview" Ross was the one who instigated it and he's made (or is making) a written apology. It's no one elses business.
 
What do people want from Ross and Brand because of this though? The people saying they should be sacked probably didn't like them to start with so should just do what they've always done - not listen or watch them.

If we look at the whole thing factually all they did was leave a few messages, even if the taste was questionable at the end of the day all Sax has to do is hit the delete button.

Listening to the whole "interview" Ross was the one who instigated is and he's made (or is making) a written apology, what more do you want?

Leaving abusive messages is illegal. This was broadcast across the country, it doesn’t set a very good precedent does it? Do you think if some nobody on at 3am had done the same they would still be employed after doing something illegal on air?

And what's even worse it was pre recorded then signed off on! :eek:

Russell Brand was sacked from MTV on the 12th September 2001 for going to work dressed as Osama Bin Laden, he was a nobody then - the BBC knew what they were letting themselves in for.
 
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Ross is a muppet. He's got talent but doesn't know where to draw the line. He's old enough to have learnt by now.

Brand is just a prat.

Both of them are a disgrace. Is it any wonder respect for old people is at an all time low? I'd fire them both.
 
Leaving abusive messages is illegal. This was broadcast across the country, it doesn’t set a very good precedent does it? Do you think if some nobody on at 3am had done the same they would still be employed after doing something illegal on air?

And what's even worse it was pre recorded then signed off on! :eek:

While lewd and immature I don't see how the messages are abusive? They jest about Brand and Sax's grandaughter and sing him some songs, they don't personally attack him or abuse him. They've obviously offended him and that's what they should apologise for.
 
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While lewd and immature I don't see how the messages are abusive? They jest about Brand and Sax's grandaughter and sing him some songs, they don't personally attack him or abuse him. They've obviously offended him and that's what they should apologise for.



Anyone found guilty of making malicious or abusive phone calls can be sentenced to up to six months in prison or fined up to £5,000 under several laws governing such calls.
 
That's irrelevant. To say the calls were malicious would imply that they wanted Sax to suffer, which they quite clearly didn't. All this is is an immature prank that got out of hand and close to the bone.
 
You can't see a crossover between leaving an obscene/indecent message on an old man's answerphone and that message being abusive? :confused:
 
You can't see a crossover between leaving an obscene/indecent message on an old man's answerphone and that message being abusive? :confused:

Agreed it's indecent but they aren't personally attacking his character or anything that might actually constitue abuse. What I'm saying is that if you actually look at what constitues an abusive call in the eyes of the law then this isn't it.

Just because he's an old bloke doesn't automatically make it abuse.
 
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He may have a very large fan-base (although I've see no evidence of it), but I think it's pushing it to describe him as 'very intelligent'. Pseudo-intelligent, perhaps.

I think the sales of his books are ample evidence of his appeal

Personally I'd like to "coil one off" and smear it under the door handles of jonathan ross's car and video his reaction from up the street when he and his wife try and get in. Oh what japes. I'm sure a man with his sense of humour would see the funny side.

:rolleyes:

What I don't understand is why that sweary went out on air. If you listen to the beginning of the show (I doubt the majority here have) Russell's first words are "It's a pre-recorded show....". As for the "prank" Russell has mentioned on more than one occasion that he's slept with Sachs' grand daughter. Brand explicitly instructs Ross not to mention this on the phone to Sachs but Ross (rather childishly I must admit) shouts over Brand. Aside from the sweary this is no different than the other voicemail messages Russell leaves for guests of the show, why is there no backlash about "abusive" messages in those cases?

Both of them are a disgrace. Is it any wonder respect for old people is at an all time low? I'd fire them both.

Are you implying that a one off voicemail to an actor is responsible for the breakdown of part of our society? I can't think of any other examples of Ross or Brands actions that could promote this breakdown.
 
Are you implying that a one off voicemail to an actor is responsible for the breakdown of part of our society? I can't think of any other examples of Ross or Brands actions that could promote this breakdown.

I personally don't think they are responsible for societies attitudes, but what they did is basically show a younger or more susceptible audience (because let's be fair thats all that listen to Brand):

"Hey look, its alright to be ****s to people you don't know, as long as its funny".

It's a negative spiral that only goes down.
 
How crap a presenter/ comedian/ funnyman do you have to be to resort to this.

Really..can the pair of them not come up with bettter material than that?
 
Woss used to be entertaining, now he bores the **** out of me. Always trying to upstage his guests, ******!
Brand i used to abhore with a passion, but as a few have said, since watching his american road trip thingy i warmed to him a little.
But regardless, this prank was too far and they should apologise unreservedly and without any snides comments anywhere in the apology.
Woss really is getting too big for his boots.
 
The way to think about it is that if they'd just called up and left a message on his answer phone politley and some how worked into the conversation that Brand had had sex with his grandaughter (I know how stupid that sounds) would that still constitute abuse? If not and you object to the "interview" then all you're really objecting to is Brand & Ross's humour.

Now God forbid any one on TV or Radio ever makes a mistake, so long as it's sincerely apologised for and learnt from I don't see why we can't all just go back to normal and enjoy the things that they're good at.
 
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