Eurogamer Games Expo!

Watch out though, the queue for Gears of War 2 was huge at what seemed like all times. The earlier you get there the more chances there are of a quick(er) wait in line. Also make sure you check outside every so often; there are usually small events and performances right outside the main entrance and Ubisoft set up a tent out front for things like Prince of Persia and MotorStorm 2.

I was there yesterday, the queue for Street Fighter 4 arcade and Gears of War 2 was stupidly long but luckily I had got there with my mates just after 12 so the queue wasnt too bad at that time.
Shame there wasnt many freebies though, I only managed to get a Prince of Persia T-shirt.
 
i want to go so badly, but I'm afraid i wont be let into games such as l4d, gow2 and killzone 2 since I'm 15 but a huge fps freak.
 
GTR1 and 2 were developed by the Original SimBin which has since parted to form Blimey! Games, Race Pro was developed by the current SimBin team who Developed Race, Race07 and titles since then, and are not as good a team as the original SimBin IMO.

Has Blimey released anything? I am sure GTR2 was still SimBin? and nothing since they split? Race 07 was very good, better than GTR2 I thought. Looking forward to Blimey's Ferrari game and the xbox arcade title if it ever appears
 
I hope Race Pro has improved since I last saw it running, here's what I said about it:

DreXeL said:
Went to Trax at Silverstone yesterday (big car show) and there were a load of 360s setup, half had GRID and the other half had Race Pro running. I didn't get to play it as they were all in use and I couldn't be arsed to wait, but I watched it for a bit and I have to say, visually it's very dissapointing. It has strange grainy look to it, not through any 'next-gen' post-processing effects, it's the actual textures themselves that look grainy and noisy, and there are plenty of jaggies evident. It doesn't look anywhere near as good as the screenshots suggest, and next to GRID it just looked really poor.

But worse than all that, the framerate was horrible, it looked to be around 20-25fps at best, with some serious slow-down. This is un-acceptable, especially considering the visuals really aren't very good atall, again GRID was clearly much smoother.

Hopefully it's just early code and the visuals and framerate improve before the game is released, and it's a shame I didn't stick around to play it, as realistic vehicle physics should be it's trump card.

Awesome physics will be useless with such a bad framerate though :(

Here's the thread I made: http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=17917683
 
Has Blimey released anything? I am sure GTR2 was still SimBin? and nothing since they split? Race 07 was very good, better than GTR2 I thought. Looking forward to Blimey's Ferrari game and the xbox arcade title if it ever appears

GTR2 was Developed by Blimey! under contract from SimBin.
 
Just got back.

Disappointing lack of freebies. The best stuff was in the Careers fair upstairs. Got a couple of Lionhead yoyos and some mugs and some other small random crap.

Anyway the games (in no order):

Banjo Kazooie Nuts & Bolts: Bit underwhelming tbh, Liked the graphical style, but it didn't scream buy me at full price, maybe for 20 quidish. May download XBL demo and try for longer.

Resistance 2: Single player level was quite good, graphics much better than the 1st one, Buying this, but more based on the co-op from the Beta. Hard to judge the single player from a random level.

Mirrors Edge - MIND BLOWING!! These were all setup on PS3s with 50 inch Bravias. I can see what people mean about motion sickness now as the Hudless design and FPS view on a large screen really makes you think you must move when the character on screen turns/jumps/climbs. Only 1 level and I sort of knew how to make it through after watching a few people. I stopped to beat down the police officers which is quite fun as the whole thing is really in your face (Feels very natural and more satisfying than FPS games that have Melee attacks etc).

Resi 5 - Awesome!! Played this a couple of times, This and Killzone 2 had best graphics of any game at the show by a country mile tbh. It was only setup as single player so the AI is your partner. The zombies look awesome upclose, camera was a bit annoying. Real time weapon switching worked well. Shooting and slashing was fast, didn't feel slow or sluggish as I feared, compared to previous games you really feel like you are surrounded by enemies (kind of like in Dead Rising).

Race Pro - disappointing. Looked to be 30fps or slower to me which really feels dated and slow. Graphics were about Forza 2 level, but the cars didn't have the sheen that PGR4 did. Also plays really slowly (I know it is a sim). And there was this weird 2 player mode where midrace you swap who drives. Not a big Sim racing fan so maybe one for hardcore fans.

Killzone 2 - Mind Blowing. The whole game had "Pre Beta code" plastered on it. The graphics in this form were better than anything on the market today tbh. Guns felt good, zoom works really well and has a huge amount of detail. Tiem was very limited on this. They had it setup with some 5.1 dolby speakers and you could hear some amazing directional effects. The animations when you shot people seemed different every single time (based on where you shoot).

Street Fighter HD Remix: I played this a lot. A few guys form some gaming beat-em-up website (neoempire) had a 360 set up for themselves which they were filming vids from. They bought their 360 arcade sticks and let the odd person play them. The game is everyting from the arcade with amazing graphics, no slowdown (Hard to believe I played this 15 yrs ago in Arcades!!). This was the final build with all characters so played quite a few different ones. No input lag, sprites look amazing and the redrawn animations are great. They have tweaked a few characters here and there which will take some getting used to :( Must mention they also had this on other 360s with normal controllers. They have definitely slackened the timings as you can pull of moves a bit better than SF2 on XBLA (using D-Pad). Still pretty crappy to play though tbh, and most people played with the joystick crew instead.

SFIV: 6 arcade cabinets with 1 vs 1 winner stays on (1 screen per person). This was awesome. The queue was a bit annoying so only had about 4 goes. Annoying this arcade machine is not in any UK arcades. Played the 360 version as well, looks the same more or less to the arcade version, arcade version seemed a bit faster but not sure on what settings were used. Sadly they haven't tweaked the controls for this (yet). ON HD remix you can pull of fireballs and dragon punches, using same controller on SFIV was not so easy. Still the game plays amazingly, worryingly some people have mastered it already!!! Graphics were really really good, although I expected the console version to look better as I am sure 360/PS3 are more powerful than the Arcade units.

Motorstorm 2: Played split screen. Graphics better than the 1st one, this game comes into it's own online I guess, the single player has never grabbed me much, the person I raced was rubbish (picked a bike and I picked a 4X4). still not 100% if I will get this.

LittleBigPlanet: Wow, played some of the actual single player levels and they are HUUUUUGGGGGGEEEE. Also a made a point of getting the lady to show me the create mode. Compared to the Beta there was a lot more items, stickers etc (so much so scrolling could be annoying unless you use the Heart function). The bosses were quite good, a bit on the easy side tbh. Knowing how the level editor works some of the levels I played must have taken ours if not days to create!

Gears 2: Only watched this, didn't play. It was set up as 4 vs 4. Graphics marginally better than the 1st one, but from 1 map hard to tell. Annoying the co-op wasn't available. Buying this.

Smackdown vs Raw 2009: This was on a huge 50 inch screen as well. Facial stuff is spot on for the wrestlers I recognised, not as big a wrestling fan these days so didn't bother playing it, but what I saw looked nice.

GTI Club +: 60fps, very nice backgrounds, amazing for a downloadable game. Played in 2 player and it really seemed to capture the feel of playing the old version in arcades well. More people playing this than RacePro and Motorstorm.

Bionic Commando: Underwhelming. The swinging in the air seemed quite slow (slower than spiderman 3 for instance). Felt like Halo style mavity. It is pretty awesome grabbing cars and enemies and flinging them with your arm, camera didn't cause any problems for me.

Fable 2: I have this game already, but just wanted to mention some of the people who made the game were there in the Lionhead booth and I got a few tips and answers to annoying questions that I did not want to use FAQs etc to find :)


That's all. played other games, but they were just stuff you can already buy and get demos for on Live etc, the above is the list I mainly went to play.


rp2000
 
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Great write up, thanks,

Mirrors Edge - MIND BLOWING!! These were all setup on PS3s with 50 inch Bravias. I can see what people mean about motion sickness now as the Hudless design and FPS view on a large screen really makes you think you must move when the character on screen turns/jumps/climbs. Only 1 level and I sort of knew how to make it through after watching a few people. I stopped to beat down the police officers which is quite fun as the whole thing is really in your face (Feels very natural and more satisfying than FPS games that have Melee attacks etc).


Killzone 2 - Mind Blowing. The whole game had "Pre Beta code" plastered on it. The graphics in this form were better than anything on the market today tbh. Guns felt good, zoom works really well and has a huge amount of detail. Time was very limited on this. They had it set-up with some 5.1 Dolby speakers and you could hear some amazing directional effects. The animations when you shot people seemed different every single time (based on where you shoot).

rp2000

I'm hearing nothing but praise for the animation and gfx in KZ2 from people in the beta, from the videos that have been posted I've been very impressed by the sound of the weapons, they seem have a more realistic snappy sound to them which is nice, and as for Mirrors Edge, honestly can't wait to get my hands on that, glad to hear that it felt natural to control.
 
Thanks for the info on the games rp, always nice to hear feedback from someone who obviously knows their games. Killzone 2 sounds excellent, but think I will hold off on buying a PS3 for a while longer, until there are at least 5 or 6 AAA exclusives.

One thing, from videos I have watched so far of Gears 2, the graphics look quite substantially better than the first Gears, you sure they were only slightly better? Bit disappointing if that is the case. I cannot wait for Resi 5, that and Empire Total War are my two most anticipated titles of 2009 at the moment.
 
So the question is - how on earth can the PS3 possibly produce the best-looking FPS of all time? What's so incredible that makes it stand out from Gears of War or something? I thought KZ2 was going to be another undelivering hypefest like Haze.
 
Really wish I could have gone to this, some of the game mini reviews that you're giving are making me want the games even more! Not heard of Mirrors Edge before, going to google that now!
 
Thanks for the info on the games rp, always nice to hear feedback from someone who obviously knows their games. Killzone 2 sounds excellent, but think I will hold off on buying a PS3 for a while longer, until there are at least 5 or 6 AAA exclusives.

One thing, from videos I have watched so far of Gears 2, the graphics look quite substantially better than the first Gears, you sure they were only slightly better? Bit disappointing if that is the case. I cannot wait for Resi 5, that and Empire Total War are my two most anticipated titles of 2009 at the moment.

It was only 1 level of Gears and I was watching. They were on 32 inch screens so was not as close as the dude playing. Also nearly all the 360s were setup on cheap crappy Samsung TVs (32-37 inch) and from the back I could see they were on component. Not suggesting Component looks worse (varies by TV) just wondering if they were setup correctly at all (TV not console settings). The details on the players was definitely improved. Thing is Gears of war really looked stunning compared to anything else 2 years ago, I don't think the Unreal 3 engine looks as good as it did 2 years ago, despite whatever tweaks they added. It is interesting you mention Killzone 2. It looks as far ahead in terms of graphics and details compared to current titles, as Gears did a couple of months before it was released.


rp2000
 
So the question is - how on earth can the PS3 possibly produce the best-looking FPS of all time? What's so incredible that makes it stand out from Gears of War or something? I thought KZ2 was going to be another undelivering hypefest like Haze.

I might if I can be bothered list the games I played today and what I thought of them, but I can say without a shadow of doubt that Killzone 2 was the best looking and most enjoyable game I played today by some distance :)
 
nice to see killzone 2 and mirrors edge look promising rp, they are probs the games im most looking forward to right now (for ps3)
 
nice to see killzone 2 and mirrors edge look promising rp, they are probs the games im most looking forward to right now (for ps3)
Me 2 :)

Anyone got more info on PoP at all?

So the question is - how on earth can the PS3 possibly produce the best-looking FPS of all time? What's so incredible that makes it stand out from Gears of War or something? I thought KZ2 was going to be another undelivering hypefest like Haze.
Im confused by the question - mind elaborating? Not really looked at consoles forums much so dont know why its so 'unbelievable'?

ps3ud0 :cool:
 
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So the question is - how on earth can the PS3 possibly produce the best-looking FPS of all time? What's so incredible that makes it stand out from Gears of War or something? I thought KZ2 was going to be another undelivering hypefest like Haze.

I also had my doubts as to whether the game can deliver until today. For me the things that impress me the most.

1. Graphics - Resistance 2 was next to Killzone 2 and lets just say there was a huge difference, so much so that when I was playing Resistance I couldn't help but watch Killzone.

2. Player animations - The Helgast feel alive, stong and a real threat popping out or rushing you from all angles, but even more impressive is the death animations with every bullet that hits their body makes them move naturally. (i.e. shoot them in the leg and it will collapse)

3. Immersion - Now this for me is the biggy and the one that seperates Killzone 2 from other shooters. Let me try and explain, basically your gun is right up close to the screen, this being especially noticable when you reload it. This really makes you feel like your holding the gun, instead of other games where you feel detached from the character as there is this distance between you, the character & your weapon. (Hard to explain but if you played it you would know what I'm getting at).

IMO Gears 2 looked like Gears 1 for the most part and whether it is down to the artistic style of each game Killzone 2 imo looked a lot better visually.

As I said I wasn't expecting much from Killzone but after playing it, I still can't believe how advanced it is compared to other games. The story may well be generic but when it arrives next year it certainly will wow gamers.
 
Kill Zone Blew me away. So so good. Also really liked Resi 5 but will admit to struggling with the controls. I wasnt impressed with POP it was just a bit meh.

Really enjoyed playing bomb mode on GTI + with 4 other people there. I remember that game from back in the day and its as great now as it was then.

Unimpressed with World at War. It just felt like Cod 4.5.

Really enjoyed Mirrors edge though might be one to rent. It was very good but maybe a bit samey. Though that could be due to watching 5 people complete the same level before i got my go to do as such.

Didnt bother with LBP as was on the beta (great game though).

Had a go on the balence board Wii games and really liked the snow boarding one.

Great day out though people were hogging lots of the bigger games. Got a bit of luck with Kill zone as the PS3 crashed while there was a massive que. Everyone left leaving me at the front when two mins later it was fixed.
 
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