I hate the London Underground...

Vanilla said:
I've visited and tried the tube in many different countires and cities - New York, Hong Kong, Bangkok, Rome, Paris and many others and they've all been much better. Well, only ROme because it's so cheap.
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You're comparing that to the London underground network? :eek:
 
unknowndomain said:
I use the tube at least 3 days a week from Waterloo to Oxford Circus, and I hate using it...

+ Commuters are so rude, barging past you when ever you're 'in their way'
+ Tourists wonder around in amazement, blocking escalators and standing in front of ticket barriers
+ Parents allow their discussing children to scream at full tilt in a carriage full of tired sweaty people.

Their is always some **** who will put his elbow in your face whilst your all packed up against the doors in the name of holding on to the roof rail.

Its at just that point when your day is over and your ready to go home, you get a seat and some old dear or parent with children comes over and death stairs you into giving up your seats when they just left the house and you have been running around a busy shop floor for hours and need to sit down for the 10 minute journey.

This is why I will never like the tube, its not about fair, or thoughtful, every ****** is out their for them selfs.

I try really hard on the way to work to allow others to pass by easily, I give up my seat, and I stand on the left, but its really annoying when your in a rush or need a seat that the whole of the tube is still in selfish mode.

People in London severely need to think about each other not just them selves.


/RANT (sorry, I had to get that one out my system!)
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Well that's not really the tubes fault. That's just the people who use it. But I'm sure in any major city like NY, Tokyo etc you will find people who use the train system who are rude and inconsiderate. It's just part of living in a major capital city.
The tube itself, for such an old system, is really good. It's fast, frequent, and rarely breaks. Even the tube map itself is a work of genius. It's almost impossible to get lost on it. The oyster system makes it even easier too. As for it being too expensive, well it's either make it cheaper, less reliable and horrible to be in, or pay a bit ore like we are now for investment so we can (and are) getting better, more comfortable trains with air conditioning and such, better quality lines/signals and just a higher standard of service.
 
Wicksta said:
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You're comparing that to the London underground network? :eek:
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Here's the simple thing that people are missing.

This thread is someone explaining why they dislike the London underground. It's about their experience on the underground.

What has the size got to do with it? Does this make it great? make it fantastic?

Should we put it on our flag it's so big and good???
 
RossG said:
Well that's not really the tubes fault. That's just the people who use it. But I'm sure in any major city like NY, Tokyo etc you will find people who use the train system who are rude and inconsiderate. It's just part of living in a major capital city.
The tube itself, for such an old system, is really good. It's fast, frequent, and rarely breaks. Even the tube map itself is a work of genius. It's almost impossible to get lost on it. The oyster system makes it even easier too. As for it being too expensive, well it's either make it cheaper, less reliable and horrible to be in, or pay a bit ore like we are now for investment so we can (and are) getting better, more comfortable trains with air conditioning and such, better quality lines/signals and just a higher standard of service.
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Yeah your right, I don't like the people the tube its self is fine and people's constant bitching about not having air con is for a very good reason, your a long way underground so there is no where to expel the heat to its possible and is being done on the new S class trains but it cannot be done on deep level track they have big fans which they use in the summer, but basically, don't wear more than a basic shirt and trousers and take a bottle of water and you will be fine on it.

I would like to see platform doors on every station eventually like on the nicer parts of the jubilee line, and possibly more automation like the DLR.
 
J.B said:
I love the tube, alright its a bit dirty and crowded sometimes but Id love to know another way,other than personal helicopter to get around London that quickly.
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Speedboat or bike obviously :p.

Anyways, here people cycle everywhere, especially in big cities, it's often faster than car/public transport...
 
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Vanilla said:
Here's the simple thing that people are missing.

This thread is someone explaining why they dislike the London underground. It's about their experience on the underground.

What has the size got to do with it? Does this make it great? make it fantastic?

Should we put it on our flag it's so big and good???
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You're the one that started comparing it to a tiny metro system *shrug*.
 
I generally enjoy using the tube, I can't say I've ever had a really bad experience and I've never been delayed. But obviously there are always going to be things that annoy me, such as the snotty woman who had her poor dog zipped up in a bowling bag on what was possibly the hottest day of the year - the dog looked on the verge of dying!!

The one thing I can't understand though, is how some peoples underarms can smell so bad first thing in the morning...:confused:
 
I really don't get people saying how expensive it is, are you still paying by cash or something? Even if you're an infrequent, there's no excuse not to have an Oyster card.

And if you're a regular user, £120 a month (£4 a day?!) for unlimited travel within zones 1-3 on all tubes and buses is really good value.

Yes it's busy, and when it mucks up it's pretty unpleasant, but on the whole it does a damn good job at efficiently getting vast numbers of people around London.
 
I use it every day and I hate it - its really grim, jammed in like cattle, and in the summer it is too hot. However it is the best way to get round London, you can go nearly anywhere and it is quite reliable. London wouldn't be the same without it..
I would hate to drive everywhere in London, and it has got me home so many times when I have been plastered :D
 
Wicksta said:
I lived in Munich for 5 years,

In Germany you have to set your clock and get to the station at the right time to catch your train, on the underground you can get to the station anytime knowing that your train will be along shortly.

You're comparing apples with oranges
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I cannot speak for anywhere else in germany but my experience with the integrated transport system in Berlin was excellent. Trains ran very frequently, with some only a minute or so apart. Always on time, clean and not overcrowded.

It isn't really apples to oranges as London has a intergrated transport system has does Berlin. One has the advantage of a relative new system (we bombed the city into the ground after all) the other is stuck with a Victorian heritage.

Vanilla said:
Here's the simple thing that people are missing.

This thread is someone explaining why they dislike the London underground. It's about their experience on the underground.

What has the size got to do with it? Does this make it great? make it fantastic?

Should we put it on our flag it's so big and good???
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Exactly. Like I said above my experience in berlin was about a million times better and despite what has been said the trains ran when i needed them to where I needed them. Cheap too!
 
rghjones said:

Might make you feel better about the underground ;)
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Thats one of the funniest things Ive seen in recent times. I laughed so hard my stomach is hurting.

The guy who obviously stood out was the guy in the white coat. For most of the time, he was way outside the carriage, but after the railway workers worked their magic, he was comfortably inside the carriage.

I dont know how those railway workers can keep a straight face while doing what they do.
 
I think it has been mentioned but the trains/system is a little old but still very good:

IT'S THE ****S WHO USE IT AND THEIR 'PERSONAL' MUSIC PLAYERS, that are the problem .... just like the ****s who insist on using trains and planes as an office, shouting down their mobile phones so loud that the recipient can probably hear them without the handset!


I once had occasion to speak to a guy on the next table in a restaurant who was tapping away at his laptop and growling down the phone at some poor soul somewhere; I asked if he would be so knid as to use his office for work and the restaurant to eat .... he wasn't over happy but there were other people making similar comments on adjacent tables so he closed his lappy and went.


It's not just London, people seem to be SO selfish and arrogant almost everywhere!








and ....breathe ..... ;)
 
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Scam said:
Agreed. Hilarious!

The tube is fine but lets face it, it needs updating. I dont know where all the money spent on it goes but you would have thought they could update the odd train here and there, get some temperature control in etc.. Use a metro in Asia (Bangkok or Hong Kong for example) and their fares are like a tenth of a price but the service is easily ten times better. There's more space, there's air conditioning, it's easy to use for foreigners.. etc. it's just not as vast a network.
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drunkenmaster said:
Tube sucks, its not particularly bad not at peak times, but I can't stand using it during rush hour, which is often the only time you use it if you're needing to use it regularly.

I prefered the metro in Barca and New York, both of which run 24/7 and are far more reliable, cheap as chips and easier to use. Its not hard to find your way around the tube, I can't understand people who do find it difficult, but how hard would it have been for people to use their tiny little heads and build a grid pattern tube system, it would be far quicker and more effective.

New Yorks seems to be one of the best in the world, its got a spare line running alongside so any repairs needing doing they can switch the track over, train brakes down, the next one just goes around it. Forward thinking and realising that keeping the trains going relatively straight would be best.
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It is being updated, an awful lot of money is being spent on it. Trains have a nice long lifespan of anywhere up to 30 years, try to replace a 70-100 train fleet every 10 years or so, even those in dubai would struggle to fund it and get it implemented. Trains are being tweaked an updated through their lifetime.

The thing about new york, is that each direction has 2 lines, so that one may be closed for engineering works whilst the other keeps on running. Having spare lines is a luxury we don't have, being that our system is of victorian descent. the other relatively new tube systems, liek *** MTR and the New York system were designed a lot later than ours and of course will be better, we do have to make do with what we have.

One thing, our tunnels are still in perfect condition and i still don't think tunnel rings have been replaced since being installed all those years ago (by brunel I think). Over engineering victorians F.T.W :D:D

drunkenmaster said:
I think London is just way to far gone to redo any of it properly or add in backup tracks. We've got what we've got now which, due to design will just always cost a lot to keep repaired and running. It will never rival other systems in other citys because, unless we scrap it and start over its always going to be a small tunnel, badly designed system. Whatever tit came up with round trains needs a kicking. Its so nice to go on other trains, stand by the door and not crook your neck out of shape due to the curve of the train.
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Good opinion there drunkenmaster and pretty much spot on.

If you guys want to feel a bit better then check this video out. Jubilee line next year, and northern 2 years after that. Plus the pic line will be getting new trains within the next 5-10 years as the current fleet is nearing the end of its life.

Air con trains will be rolling out in a few years too on the sub surface lines (just below road level) e.g. distrcit, but you will never see them on the deep lines like the via, pic, and northern just becuase it is physically impossible. The heat created from the air con units would stay in the tunnels and stations, and will actually heat the system up even more. Plus there is the problem of finding space on a train to fit them :D

 
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I used the tube for 5 years before moving down to Wiltshire this year. The first time I used it came as a bit of a shock, lack of manners etc. However, it didn't take me long to get into the same mode as the others (headphones on, face in paper/book ignoring all others). However, I still retained enough of my northern manners to offer my seat to pregnant and old women.

Good way to combat the overcrowding in the morning on the way to work is to have a severe hangover. Nothing quite clears space like beer breath and beer farts :)
 
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