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4870 x2 Graphics problem (Shadows)
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Yes it is/was. All the issues you raise point directly to a broken card. Just get your refund and buy another card to save us from your whining.
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Have you actually read my post? I allready have a GTX 280. I was UPgrading to a 4870x2 as I had the chance.
Its not a broken card. Do yourself a favour and type 4870x2 stuttering in google and you will soon be educated on the "known" issues.
Really now?
So why do I not need to run my fan at 85% to keep it cool? Why do I not get strange shadow effects and weird colours? How come my card runs happily at 800/1000? The only thing you might have a point with is the so called 'micro-stutter', but as I run everything with vsync on I have yet to encounter the problem.
As you say you have a 280 which works for you, that's cool. But please do not try and pass off your own dealings with the x2 as fact, all that does is make you look foolish. I had a 8800GT that had huge heat problems due to the fan stopping as the temperature hit high numbers. Now I foolishly sent it back straight away, what I should have done is made a thread about how the 8800GT is a load of rubbish and ignored anyone who tried to tell me otherwise.
So why do I not need to run my fan at 85% to keep it cool? Why do I not get strange shadow effects and weird colours? How come my card runs happily at 800/1000? The only thing you might have a point with is the so called 'micro-stutter', but as I run everything with vsync on I have yet to encounter the problem.
As you say you have a 280 which works for you, that's cool. But please do not try and pass off your own dealings with the x2 as fact, all that does is make you look foolish. I had a 8800GT that had huge heat problems due to the fan stopping as the temperature hit high numbers. Now I foolishly sent it back straight away, what I should have done is made a thread about how the 8800GT is a load of rubbish and ignored anyone who tried to tell me otherwise.
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If you own a 4870x2 and you run games with V-sync on then you have absolutley no right to post. You do realise you are limiting the frames to the refresh rate of your monitor? Why the HELL would you do that with an x2? Also the input lag with v-sync on is unbareable. As I said, i bought this card with the purpose being an UPgrade - not a card that I have to run at 60fps max with ridiculous input lag.
I gather you have gained your computer knowledge from a few hours of browsing internet forums?
lol
What is the refresh rate of your display? My 30" 3008wfp is limited to 60Hz, so any framerate above that for me would be meaningless and the x2 is the only card on the market that has a chance of running a vsynced 2560x1600. As such I prefer the silky smoothness of a true locked 60fps display with zero tearing, and tearing annoys me far more than a bit of stutter here and there does. I am sure the Q3 heads or similar who think they need 200fps to be accurate with a railgun will take exception, but what floats your boat might not do it for anyone else.
If anything the person who cannot even realise they have a broken gfx card with massive heat issues is the one who should not be posting.
Nice dig with the computer knowledge bit. I could give you a rambling story about the first PC I used back in 1987 (An Apricot Xeni/386 fact fans), the exciting adventures I had for a major player in the CPU industry at the turn of the millennium putting together machines for computer shows or even my current position as a system administrator for a large IT outsourcing company. But judging by your replies and obvious lack of simple problem solving skills most of it would go whooshing over your head.
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So you're saying that ATI users having spent £350 on a card have a choice between screen tearing or stuttering?
Most people buy 4870x2 to be able to run 2560 x 1600 with v-sync on I would've thought, why have it pumping out extra frames that don't even get displayed? input lag? oh come on anyone that anal about input lag will be competitive gamers using an old CRT and running 800*600 with zero detail anyway, they'd be better off with a 4850.
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I must say I have enjoyed my X2 and a lot of the issues people speak of I have to say is down to their PCs. For example, when I had 4850CF I had a lot of problems which were fixed by a simple BIOS update.
With regards to the "microstutter" I don't notice it all anymore, I did more with older driver revisions and with the 4850s in CF.
Currently, I am enjoying the 4870X2 and it runs perfectly in every game. It works multi monitor with no issue and the internal CF is definately working (looking at GPU-Z etc). When I ordered it I actually started to feel guilty in that everyone seemed to paint a bad picture of it, but this is the best GPU in terms of impact I have bought for a long time.
With regards to drivers, at least you know where you are with driver versions, one thing that really got me with the GTS before was the lack of central communication about drivers and relying on betas constantly.
I still want to know the truth about sideport - is this ATi's come back for any future big bangs (ones which are actually not impotent?) and I still want to see a similiar GX2!
With regards to the "microstutter" I don't notice it all anymore, I did more with older driver revisions and with the 4850s in CF.
Currently, I am enjoying the 4870X2 and it runs perfectly in every game. It works multi monitor with no issue and the internal CF is definately working (looking at GPU-Z etc). When I ordered it I actually started to feel guilty in that everyone seemed to paint a bad picture of it, but this is the best GPU in terms of impact I have bought for a long time.
With regards to drivers, at least you know where you are with driver versions, one thing that really got me with the GTS before was the lack of central communication about drivers and relying on betas constantly.
I still want to know the truth about sideport - is this ATi's come back for any future big bangs (ones which are actually not impotent?) and I still want to see a similiar GX2!
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Aw bless. Just you go and enjoy your lovely v-sync and I'l enjoy proper gaming with my 280 thanx.
It's obvious that if you have a 4870x2 card you will praise it even if its working or not. I had both cards sitting infront of me so completely non-bias opinion on both and i chose the 280. Simple, nothing to go forum trolling mad over.
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Just because you feel that way does not mean we all have to. I can go out and buy a 280 but I don't feel like I need to, there is nothing to fix.
You have seen through my façade. My x2 is actually causing me all sorts of problems, and I am covering it up after spending £400 notes on it instead of sending it back for a refund.
As for trolling? Who is the person stating every x2 is broken? Who is the person throwing around nonsense about others knowledge being based around a few hours forum reading?
People came up with more than likely the reasons for a lot of your issues (helloooo you obviously have a broken card, **** happens), but you ignored them and continued with your spiel about how the x2 is totally broken and rubbish. *yawn*
Like I said, I could not care less which card you choose, I was just putting straight some of your FUD.
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You have seen through my façade. My x2 is actually causing me all sorts of problems, and I am covering it up after spending £400 notes on it instead of sending it back for a refund.
As for trolling? Who is the person stating every x2 is broken? Who is the person throwing around nonsense about others knowledge being based around a few hours forum reading?
People came up with more than likely the reasons for a lot of your issues (helloooo you obviously have a broken card, **** happens), but you ignored them and continued with your spiel about how the x2 is totally broken and rubbish. *yawn*
Like I said, I could not care less which card you choose, I was just putting straight some of your FUD.
You still haven't read my post. I said most 4870x2 owners on various forums are experiencing stuttering. Just take a look at the amount of posts there are on it!
It has found to be related to the Sideport not being enabled on the card. Here is proof. Stop sounding like a know all and face the facts Mr v-sync.
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The point is no-one cares. You dont liek the x2. You dont have too. You like the 280. Thats fine.
We can read forums too. You started trolling by goin ATI are **** never buying one again and all that ****. We really aint that bothered.
IT would seem most of your x2 knowledge is.
You have fun on 280 and these ppl will have fun on thier hassle free x2.
From your link:
"But not everyone notices the problem. A lot of people don't even recognize the micro stuttering and therefore don't see any differences to normal situations. The trick is not to see that the game stutters but how it does."
If your one of those special ppl then dont use one. that links mentions nothing about sideports either. its also worth noting that in that article they stress the cr** out of the system to make it suffer from low frame rates and produce the stutter. Later on they say:
"To be fair, we have to admit, it takes such demanding settings to bring the HD 4870 X2 to her knees."
and that later games will be more demanding, but we all know that technology and sofware improves over time.
Im going for a Xfire setup, Knowing that this stuttering may be an issue. If it happens im not going to cry and whine about buying ATI ever again becuase i know its a technology limitation, probably will be fixed with drivers at some point, and could happen on SLI too.
The other point is IF you read all these forums threads and were not happy about microstuttering, why did you buy one?
Either way its a mute point, use your 280 and be happy.
We can read forums too. You started trolling by goin ATI are **** never buying one again and all that ****. We really aint that bothered.
IT would seem most of your x2 knowledge is.
You have fun on 280 and these ppl will have fun on thier hassle free x2.
From your link:
"But not everyone notices the problem. A lot of people don't even recognize the micro stuttering and therefore don't see any differences to normal situations. The trick is not to see that the game stutters but how it does."
If your one of those special ppl then dont use one. that links mentions nothing about sideports either. its also worth noting that in that article they stress the cr** out of the system to make it suffer from low frame rates and produce the stutter. Later on they say:
"To be fair, we have to admit, it takes such demanding settings to bring the HD 4870 X2 to her knees."
and that later games will be more demanding, but we all know that technology and sofware improves over time.
Im going for a Xfire setup, Knowing that this stuttering may be an issue. If it happens im not going to cry and whine about buying ATI ever again becuase i know its a technology limitation, probably will be fixed with drivers at some point, and could happen on SLI too.
The other point is IF you read all these forums threads and were not happy about microstuttering, why did you buy one?
Either way its a mute point, use your 280 and be happy.
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You cared enough to write that post. Other people obviously care enough to rant a load of bo11ox and hate too.
Yes some people won't notice the stuttering, all im trying to say is that it is there and it is not just a dud card like some trolls seam to think / want.
I read about the micro-stuttering problems after I got the card obviously...
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It could be a dud, your complaining about overheating. You havnt even explored that avenue.
And no i dont care, im just tired of reading all the NV fanboy BS.
And no i dont care, im just tired of reading all the NV fanboy BS.
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I'm not f'ing complaining about heating you idiot. Yea fan boi whatever.
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You played FarCry 2 yet, that crashes all the time on Nvidia cards, so give it a whirl and start your ******* GTX 280 IS A PILE OF ******, NVIDIA ARE **** thread please, as id like to read it. 
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You played FarCry 2 yet, that crashes all the time on Nvidia cards, so give it a whirl and start your ******* GTX 280 IS A PILE OF ******, NVIDIA ARE **** thread please, as id like to read it.
Lol very true, you never see any threads like this with nvidia cards thats for sure.
You see, after I read your link a few posts back I went and loaded up Warhead to see if I had anything like t he same problems as shown in that video and I can hand on heart say I had nothing of the sort. Seriously their stuttering is REALLY bad and I WOULD have noticed it, but mine's never given me anything but smooth performance. Yes its hot, and yes it doesn't really overclock but you don't need to OC it at the moment because it's so ruddy powerful anyway.
The only game I've had any problems with is WoW, and that was just caused by the game being woefully outdated and not supporting AdAA and Dual core/Xfire/SLi setups.
It honestly sounds like you got a bad one, and if you are unhappy with it then that's your prerogative. Send it back, get a refund. Personally I'd try and swap it and see what the next one's like and if you're still unhappy with it then get a refund.
All the good reviews and people in here saying they've had no problems with theirs can't be making it up. Yes there are problems with it, but they're by no means on every card.
The only game I've had any problems with is WoW, and that was just caused by the game being woefully outdated and not supporting AdAA and Dual core/Xfire/SLi setups.
It honestly sounds like you got a bad one, and if you are unhappy with it then that's your prerogative. Send it back, get a refund. Personally I'd try and swap it and see what the next one's like and if you're still unhappy with it then get a refund.
All the good reviews and people in here saying they've had no problems with theirs can't be making it up. Yes there are problems with it, but they're by no means on every card.