NEC LCD24WMGX3 Professional Gaming 24" Widescreen

There were several reasons why I personally chose the NEC over the HP.

The first was the text clarity problem that affected several people with the HP. That's really important to me and there were various potential reasons put forward including the wide-gamut and the organisation of the sub-pixels in the IPS panel - both fundamental to the HP. There were a couple of other, lesser problems that also made me feel uneasy.

Secondly the wide-gamut put me off - I'd like to see colours as they were intended to be, and until the world in general adopts wide-gamut I don't see that happening without lots of fiddling selecting and swapping between applications. I'm not a great photographer, but it's useful having the monitor display what I want it to in the comparatively secure knowledge that the end product will be printed as I saw it on my screen. I want something that 'just works' as much as possible.

Thirdly the looks. This monitor is likely to end up in as part of a 'home entertainment' hub and as such the HP's WAF is a very distant second to the NEC. The built-in speakers will also be handy when the daughter is playing on her WII and doesn't want/need the full AV receiver setup turned on.

Next the input lag on the NEC is significantly better than the HP. I don't have the time to play games every day, but when I do I don't want anything ruining my experience.

MVA vs IPS. I've compared the relative merits of the idealised panels types and I'm happy with the compromises I would have to make choosing MVA over an IPS panel - such as viewing angle.

As I mentioned in the HP thread, this boiled down to a decision between the HP that has been reported to have problems that would be show-stoppers for me and wouldn't be as suitable in the environment in which it may sit, and the NEC which had negligible feedback but was from a quality vendor that I've used before, could be used anywhere in the house and was much less likely to suffer from any show-stoppers inherent to the technology used. Price was a factor, but not a show-stopping issue - and became less with the 6% off.

So having lived with the monitor for a week or so, am I happy?

You bet I am. Apart from the stuck sub-pixel, which I can't actually see at my typical viewing distance, there is nothing about this monitor that would make me contemplate sending it back. As far as I'm concerned, I have absolutely the best monitor available to suit my needs, and for that I'm willing to pay the extra £130 (mine cost £586 delivered vs £458 for the HP) to avoid compromises.

Of course, all this is my very humble opinion - but in my very humble opinion, my very humble opinion is the right one! :D
 
Flying Gribble said:
There were several reasons why I personally chose the NEC over the HP.

The first was the text clarity problem that affected several people with the HP. That's really important to me and there were various potential reasons put forward including the wide-gamut and the organisation of the sub-pixels in the IPS panel - both fundamental to the HP. There were a couple of other, lesser problems that also made me feel uneasy.

Secondly the wide-gamut put me off - I'd like to see colours as they were intended to be, and until the world in general adopts wide-gamut I don't see that happening without lots of fiddling selecting and swapping between applications. I'm not a great photographer, but it's useful having the monitor display what I want it to in the comparatively secure knowledge that the end product will be printed as I saw it on my screen. I want something that 'just works' as much as possible.

Thirdly the looks. This monitor is likely to end up in as part of a 'home entertainment' hub and as such the HP's WAF is a very distant second to the NEC. The built-in speakers will also be handy when the daughter is playing on her WII and doesn't want/need the full AV receiver setup turned on.

Next the input lag on the NEC is significantly better than the HP. I don't have the time to play games every day, but when I do I don't want anything ruining my experience.

MVA vs IPS. I've compared the relative merits of the idealised panels types and I'm happy with the compromises I would have to make choosing MVA over an IPS panel - such as viewing angle.

As I mentioned in the HP thread, this boiled down to a decision between the HP that has been reported to have problems that would be show-stoppers for me and wouldn't be as suitable in the environment in which it may sit, and the NEC which had negligible feedback but was from a quality vendor that I've used before, could be used anywhere in the house and was much less likely to suffer from any show-stoppers inherent to the technology used. Price was a factor, but not a show-stopping issue - and became less with the 6% off.

So having lived with the monitor for a week or so, am I happy?

You bet I am. Apart from the stuck sub-pixel, which I can't actually see at my typical viewing distance, there is nothing about this monitor that would make me contemplate sending it back. As far as I'm concerned, I have absolutely the best monitor available to suit my needs, and for that I'm willing to pay the extra £130 (mine cost £586 delivered vs £458 for the HP) to avoid compromises.

Of course, all this is my very humble opinion - but in my very humble opinion, my very humble opinion is the right one! :D
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Nice to hear you are loving your NEC.

I previously owned the HP lp2475w and sent it back after 10days.
You would have hated it. Text clarity was appalling + I couldn't get rid of the wide gamut's red push.
Ewok I'm quite sure the NEC is definetly in a different leauge than the HP Panels type isn't anything..

So left on my short list is NEC wmgx3 24" and Apple cinema display 24" :rolleyes:
 
Well, after humming over whether to get 20/22/24/30", which monitor within those sizes etc for the past 3 or 4 months.
Ive opted for the last of stock of this one :D. Im no audio/visual expert but im one fussy bugger and having gotten bored of my trusty and faultless Sharp LL-172G-B i thought it was time for a change :), shall post up any issues i find ;)
 
Hi,

I´m really interested in the 24WMGX3 because of its obviously low input lag. I was looking for a nearly perfect TFT for a long time and I have seen so many TFTs but none of them could meet my requirements fully. I own 3 2080uxi with S-IPS Panel and I like them really but the text-size is small and the strong coating of the panel doesn´t make reading texts easier. And I don´t like working in non-native resolutions or tweaking windows, browser and programs for bigger font-sizes. The problem is, that I like playing fast FPS- games and racing-simulations for which an IPS-Panel-TFT would be the best solution. Unfortunately the 2490WuXi isn´t available in Germany and the 2690WUXi often makes loude noise at the point of dimming the backlight-intensity.

Eizo has really nice TFTs, but the input-lag is much too worse for gaming FPS I think. And 30" is maybe too big for my desk and again I would have the problem with the font-size.

The 24WMGX3 could be the perfect TFT for my requirements but I have some questions to the people here who already own one:

1: Does it make any kind of noise, when dimming / reducing the backlight-intensity?

2: Do You have noticed any kind of coronas at fast moving objects because of bad overdrive control? Maybe you could also download the free "pixperan" program at prad and make some syntetic tests.?

3: What are your general impressions when playing fast games like FPS-games (ghosting, smearing for example)?

4: Do you notice colorshift of white colors or other colours when looking from the side?

5: What Do you dislike at the 24WMGX3?

I would like to see a test at prad where I did a lot of posts, but I think there are reasons because of whom this special TFT will not be tested. In my opinion these reasons are simply commercial reasons.;) A Dell for example would have been tested. Just my 2 cents. The board once started without a commercial background but as time goes by many of the pioneer members went away - guess why? So maybe the WMGX3 would be too good and maybe it would be a too strong competitor for the 2408Wfp Dell and maybe it would be even better - who knows?

Sorry for my not really perfect English because my main language is the German language.

Greetings

Mario
 
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Try2fixit said:
The problem is, that I like playing fast FPS- games and racing-simulations for which an IPS-Panel-TFT would be the best solution.
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Is this true? I would have thought for fast FPS/racing games, you would need the fastest response times and lowest input lag, which kind of means a TN panel would be best. The advantages of an IPS panel seem to be increased viewing angles and higher-quality colour reproduction. I don't think this is so important in FPS games.

I too am eagerly awaiting a review of the 24WMGX3, but this monitor has a very limited market. I can't see it for sale anywhere over here (China), and I don't believe it's available in USA, so I'm not expecting too many reviews.
 
AlfCheesey said:
Is this true? I would have thought for fast FPS/racing games, you would need the fastest response times and lowest input lag, which kind of means a TN panel would be best. The advantages of an IPS panel seem to be increased viewing angles and higher-quality colour reproduction. I don't think this is so important in FPS games.
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Many people think that TN-panel displays are much faster with their 2ms than good IPS-panel ones. But thats wrong. The 2ms etc. is only a lousy marketing trick. None of these displays even reach 10ms under real conditions. But thats no problem, because its not really important if its 2ms, 8ms oder 16ms. You won´t notice the difference.

But good panels like S-IPS, H-IPS, A-MVA, S-PVA etc. have much more advantages for gamers than many people could imagine. For example the much better grayscales. You can see opponents in shooters much better than on TN-displays where often grays turn into black. The next TN-problem is an often very bad backlight uniformity. And never forget: A TN-display doesn´t show real 16,7 Mio of Colors (8 Bit) or even more. They only know 262,144 colors and use a kind of dithering for the rest. The result is a very big banding-problem. And even in games this is very annoying in my opinion.

I have played at many diplays, and believe me, S-IPS showed always the best results. Only the blacks could even be darker like on S-PVA or A-MVA.

Sorry for off topic, and now back to the 24WMGX3, I have still some unanswered questions ;-)

Greetings, Mario
 
Try2fixit said:
The 24WMGX3 could be the perfect TFT for my requirements but I have some questions to the people here who already own one:

1: Does it make any kind of noise, when dimming / reducing the backlight-intensity?

2: Do You have noticed any kind of coronas at fast moving objects because of bad overdrive control? Maybe you could also download the free "pixperan" program at prad and make some syntetic tests.?

3: What are your general impressions when playing fast games like FPS-games (ghosting, smearing for example)?

4: Do you notice colorshift of white colors or other colours when looking from the side?

5: What Do you dislike at the 24WMGX3?
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1. Not noticed any - I'll try and explicitly check for this tonight.

2. Nope. Again - I'll try and do what you ask, but this'll take longer. Not sure my camera is up to it.

3. I've played Mass Effect, Bioshock and the Witcher on this and to my eyes it's been excellent. I was recently playing the first two on a VP930 and 2407WFP A03 and this is better.

4. Blacks get a touch paler, but others colours seemed OK from memory. Again, I'll try it tonight.

5. Only a very minor niggle - the stand is stiff to adjust.

It's nice to see that the other 5 have been sold, so perhaps we'll get more feedback soon.
 
Just plugged it in and all i can say is :O WOW lmao.
Its bloody mental, certainly a change from my 17"
Brightness is a bit too high though. Slight banding on certain images but i think its depending on the actual quality/res of the source and probably because ive not got it set up right... Too many options! :P

Anyone suggest any basic n00b settings for me or will i just lower the britghness? lol
 
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@Flying Gribble: Thank you very much for sharing your impressions. You don´t need to make pictures for pixperan. Your subjective experience is much more important for me. Sometimes the overdrive factory-setting is too strong so that a white small afterglow at the edges of fast moving objects appears. This kind of unwanted effect is called corona. One syntetic test of pixperan is very useful to show this effect. And also the reaction time test of the website linked in this thread can show this effect if its there. Even some new expensive Eizo displays do have this problem. It would be very interesting for me if the NEC also shows this or if the overdrive factory setting of the overdrive is better.

What can you say about the contrast of the display in comparison to the Dell for example. Which one shows deeper blacks?

Sweeney seems to have some banding problems with his NEC, maybe it´s only the bad quality of the picture itself. Could you please make a check with your own NEC if there is a problem with banding? A good test for that is for example the following weblink.

You can simply check a TFT (many other tests available) with this webpage:

http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/gradient.php

In the middle on near by the top of the page is a small white dropdown menu, where you can select the different tests.

Keep on good work and thanks again for sharing your experience with us.

Greetings

Mario
 
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i also ordered this monitor and will give my point of view when it is recieved, problem is, been over 1 week since i placed the order and it seems it still havent left their office although money been taken and order status is set as complete, anyone else been having this problem? hopefully i get it before new year :rolleyes:
 
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