US ELECTION RESULTS THREAD...

what are obamas policies? do any of you know? do any of the americans know

watch out Afghanistan.

I find it freaking hilarious, Obama's been voted in purely because McCain is a war mongerer and Obama as a child of peace who will pull them out of Iraq tomorrow and Afghan the day after and never start a war again apparently.

Why did people vote a guy in whose policys basically no one has even listened to.

Oh well, lets see exactly when he pulls out of Iraq, should be interesting. Considering he now considers the surge a huge success and has finally conceded the idea that pulling out will lead to a massive terrorist influx into the region all supported by Iran and that pulling out is a terrible idea, will people get angry when he doesn't forfill a promise he withdrew over a year ago?

THe richest, and most expensive campaign won, not exactly new. I just find it strange that McCain ran such a clean and relatively cheap campaign and why the Republicans didn't just sink money in and go dirty ages ago, they probably would have won.
 
So when will a white guy be voted in as president for a black country ill tell you never. Its allright to for a white country but youll never see it in a black country take south africa all the top guys were black, most of the whites had to move, ie coming to the UK, they felt they were being treated unfairly etc..


Answered your own question?

lol
 
I just find it strange that McCain ran such a clean and relatively cheap campaign and why the Republicans didn't just sink money in and go dirty ages ago, they probably would have won.

Clean? McCain ran the dirtiest campaign America has seen in decades.
 
I find it freaking hilarious, Obama's been voted in purely because McCain is a war mongerer and Obama as a child of peace who will pull them out of Iraq tomorrow and Afghan the day after and never start a war again apparently.

Why did people vote a guy in whose policys basically no one has even listened to.

Oh well, lets see exactly when he pulls out of Iraq, should be interesting. Considering he now considers the surge a huge success and has finally conceded the idea that pulling out will lead to a massive terrorist influx into the region all supported by Iran and that pulling out is a terrible idea, will people get angry when he doesn't forfill a promise he withdrew over a year ago?

THe richest, and most expensive campaign won, not exactly new. I just find it strange that McCain ran such a clean and relatively cheap campaign and why the Republicans didn't just sink money in and go dirty ages ago, they probably would have won.

eh, no I can't vote in the US but i watched BOTH debates, Convention speeches and I am nor black or white, and I would (if I could) vote for Obama not because he will pull the troops out of Iraq, I like him because of who he is.
 
Oh well, lets see exactly when he pulls out of Iraq, should be interesting. Considering he now considers the surge a huge success and has finally conceded the idea that pulling out will lead to a massive terrorist influx into the region all supported by Iran and that pulling out is a terrible idea, will people get angry when he doesn't forfill a promise he withdrew over a year ago?
Even the Iraqi government want the coalition troops out. Can't stay there forever. The American public don't want the war any more, they want their troops out, and to kill the massive drain of resources that it's causing.

and never start a war again apparently.
When did he say that? Got anything to back that up?
 
Can you tell me at what point any Iraq government wanted America to stay, you mean the occupied country wants the occupying troops out, well I never.

AS for dirtiest campaign... EVER..... are you on crack. Lets see the tapes of several speeches of Obama that got sent to big news outlets but wouldn't be released, because...... they got paid by someone not to release the news. THeres the instant, and I mean instant attacks on Palin after she was named accusing her or pretending her disabled child wasn't her's but her other daughters. No, its not low at all to go after the oppositions disabled child and i'll let you in on a secret, Palin didn't attack herself in the press, twas the other side.

RAmond LIn, can I ask you, what is it about him as a person you like, and what about his campaign made you think he should be president then?
 
Palin doesn't need to be mocked; it's painfully obvious to any sentient life form that she's a class A moron.




But it's much funnier to rip the pee out of her :D
 
I would have voted for Obama, but looking at this graph it's clear some ethnic groups only chose him because of his colour! You can hardly call white america racist as it was almost 50-50:

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Looking at that graph I'd say it's not white america that's the racist group at all...

Full link - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/us_elections_2008/7709852.stm
 
AS for dirtiest campaign... EVER..... are you on crack.

No, but I think you must be. Because I didn't say "dirtiest campaign ever". I said "McCain ran the dirtiest campaign America has seen in decades". Can't you read?

Lets see the tapes of several speeches of Obama that got sent to big news outlets but wouldn't be released, because...... they got paid by someone not to release the news.

Wrong. There was only one tape, not several. People offered money to buy the tape; nobody paid money to keep it silent.

If there was anything newsworthy on that tape, it would have been out by now. No newspaper is going to stifle itself for a handful of loose change.

THeres the instant, and I mean instant attacks on Palin after she was named accusing her or pretending her disabled child wasn't her's but her other daughters.

None of that had anything to do with Obama. It certainly wasn't a strategy adopted by his campaign. Most of it was media speculation and ignorant, spiteful accusation from random Democrats.

Obama won. Get over it.
 
RAmond LIn, can I ask you, what is it about him as a person you like, and what about his campaign made you think he should be president then?

For 1, a more intelligent man got the job. I am not saying JM is thick, but I believe BO is a more intelligent man all round. I believe that the leader should be a more intelligent than the average person, you want to trust him and despite his inexperience in public office (which I think is a bit out of proportion, JFK was 44 when he went into office, 3 years younger than Obama), I believe that he smart enough to make the right decision. The intelligence I talk about is not without merit, despite his difficult upbringing (there was no $40,000 a year Private school like McCain went to), his mother died of Cancer when he was a child, brought up by his Grandmother, went to Columbia University, got into Harvard Law, made Law Review, then Editor of Law Review (in his First year) and then President of the Harvard Law Review (Second year). This is no easy feat, by anyone's standard.

Secondly, in addition to his background. The American Dream, the fact that you should have a better education than your parents, the fact that you can achieve anything if you work hard at it, the fact that beyond skin colour and race, it is the content of your character that define who you are. Obama embodies those ideals, the American Dreams has not been so in the flesh until today, no doubt his victory will give a lot of working class people back their sense of believe, the believe that they had lost in the past 2 months, and for some, 8 years. He also give a new generation of young people a believe that with hard work you can achieve anything. They tell kids in school that anyone can be president, and it has come true today.

Third (or 5th...lost count), I believe that not only America, the World needs a change. You might not agree, but I think McCain represents the old American, the ideals of the older generation, but this is a minor point (you might not agree), I believe that McCain will not be so different to Bush.

It's late, and I got to get ready for work. :)
 
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We don't have the race issues that America has, we've already moved on, and we've already voted a women into office.


No , I mean we appear to be going backwards as opposed to forwards like the yanks.

We don't have the race issues that America had in the past, thats not to say that we don't have race issues, in many areas, believe me, we do.
 
Alaska went Republican, dang :p

But good on Obama for getting in there, I say. :D
Class speech by him, and indeed McCain's defeat speech, especially when he stopped the 'booing'.
 
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Sums it up better than many of us here ever could (perhaps thats why he's BBC World Affairs Editor? :D)

President Obama and the world

By John Simpson
BBC World Affairs Editor

The United States has seen the biggest transformation in its standing in the world since the election of John Fitzgerald Kennedy in November 1960.
Barack Obama on 4 November
The world's expectations of an Obama administration are high

This is a country which has habitually, sometimes irritatingly, regarded itself as young and vibrant, the envy of the world. Often this is merely hype. But there are times when it is entirely true.

With Barack Obama's victory, one of these moments has arrived.

The US has never been so unpopular, so derided, and so dismissed by the outside world as it has in the latter stages of George W Bush's presidency. The other day I asked Madeleine Albright, President Clinton's formidable secretary of state, if she could remember a time when people hated America so much.

Expectations abroad

"Not in my lifetime," she answered. "I feel very strongly about this country, and what an exceptional, amazing country it is. But I honestly think this is about as bad as I've seen it."

Opinion polls around the world have confirmed America's unpopularity. And the chance that a young, apparently pleasant and modest black man might become its president was greeted favourably everywhere.

Last summer a poll for the BBC World Service, conducted in 22 countries, indicated that people preferred Barack Obama to John McCain by four to one. Almost half said that if Senator Obama were elected, it would change their view of the United States completely.


America is no longer the power it was. It can still lead, but it is no longer in a position to dictate to the wider world


For eight years the word that people around the world have used again and again to describe the approach of George W Bush's presidency is "arrogance". The tone in Washington seemed to be one of superiority amounting almost to contempt.

Think of the speeches by men like Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz, or Paul Bremer. All were closely concerned with the occupation of Iraq, which was carried out in defiance of opinion in most of the rest of the world.

Why did the US invade Iraq? "Because we are America," said another leading figure in the enterprise, famously. "We can."

Outside this country, most people would probably agree with Madeleine Albright's judgement when she spoke to me: "I think Iraq will go down in history as the greatest disaster of American foreign policy - worse than Vietnam."

In the rush to war in 2003, when many American politicians were frightened to stand out against the crowd, Barack Obama condemned the invasion loudly and publicly.

No guarantee

The fact that he has been elected president is his reward for that. And everyone around the world who felt that the Iraq war was wrong will feel that America has now chosen a different path - a path that leads away from extraordinary rendition, Guantanamo, Abu Ghraib, waterboarding and all the rest of it.

America is no longer the power it was. Without meaning to, President Bush demonstrated that. It can still lead, but it is no longer in a position to dictate to the wider world.


Barack Obama clearly understands this. As an African-American (literally, since his father was from Kenya) his background is not one of privilege and superiority. He will be open to the world in a way President Bush never was. And he will show once again the value of the American dream.

This is no guarantee that he will be a success as President. Jimmy Carter understood the US's reduced position in the post-Vietnam world, and he refused to dictate to the world. Nowadays most Americans regard him as a failure.

But the outside world is set to be delighted by Barack Obama's victory. And its view of America will change accordingly.
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/us_elections_2008/7708893.stm
 
Over night, some cheeky people replaced President Bush with a black guy...

..now let's see what happens!

Hurrah!
 
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