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4870 or 260 core 216 my thoughts

Tute said:
This thread is just fantastic, ROFL!

Originally Posted by Shocky-FM
I think the HD4000 series is overhyped, the hysteria of ATI finally being back in the game is warring off and people are realising the grass isn’t necessarily greener on the other side.

This comment in particular. Comedy gold. :D
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I think that comment summed it up perfectly to be honest? The frenzy over HD4000 was unreal on these forums a while ago. Don't you remember people saying the 4870 512mb matched the GTX 280 and other such stuff?
 
Strife212 said:
I think that comment summed it up perfectly to be honest? The frenzy over HD4000 was unreal on these forums a while ago. Don't you remember people saying the 4870 512mb matched the GTX 280 and other such stuff?
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No, but you're welcome to provide a link.

And you might want to consider the credibility of what you're quoting before you quote it.
 
I don't bookmark ancient threads :p

It's already been mentioned in this thread, people saying ATI's "texture compression" was better so the 512mb didn't matter.

I'm not attacking the ATI cards in any way by the way.
 
Strife212 said:
I think that comment summed it up perfectly to be honest? The frenzy over HD4000 was unreal on these forums a while ago. Don't you remember people saying the 4870 512mb matched the GTX 280 and other such stuff?
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err. I dont think his post sums up anything. He sounds to me like a fanboy. Sure the 4870 was over hyped a while back, but to agree with his post? lol

Bizarre said:
I've owned a 4870 512, 1gb and x2, and I've never had a problem with any of them regarding drivers or anything else for that matter. It seems to me that it's only the ones who've had probs with their 4870's rating the gtx260 as the much better card. Go figure.

I currently own a gtx280 but only because I got it at a bargain price from here for £215 using a discount code, if I had to pay any more than that though I'd of sooner kept the 4870 512mb. I guess my point is that I can't see the gtx260 being that great of a step up when I didn't notice amazing gains myself switching from a 4870 to a gtx280.

Edit: If you'd like proof that I've owned the cards mentioned then there's plenty of benchmarks floating about this forum where I've entered all four.

Edit 2: OP, glad you're happy with your new card though, I guess that's all that matters. :)
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I think this sounds a lot more accurate from what I have seen and read online. The GTX 280 is a better GPU, but it comes at a price. With the introduction of the 260 maxcore I think NV now have a good competitor (price for performance wise) for the 4870. If you want the best graphics card, its the 4870 X2 and no one can argue with that. So stop this childish fanboyism.
 
Strife212 said:
I don't bookmark ancient threads :p

It's already been mentioned in this thread, people saying ATI's "texture compression" was better so the 512mb didn't matter.

I'm not attacking the ATI cards in any way by the way.
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Sadly I don't remember it being said - and before I get accused of "selective memory", I really don't!

And it would certainly be one hell of a texture compression technique to rival extra frame buffer as it would need to be lossless.

It's been proven that the extra 512MB helps the 4870 right across the board anway.
 
The compression technique carp really was thrown around here quite a lot. One person said it, another picked up on it, so on and so forth. I really can't believe anyone forgetting it so quickly, they haven't been out that long :confused:
 
mmj_uk said:
but I thought 1GB was un-necessary and due to ATI's wonderous texture compression not needed? or was it all just fanboy fud I kept hearing in the first few months before ATI released a 1GB card....? ;)
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Couldn't agree more, the ATI memory thing was done to death. What is also true is my Powercolor 1Gb is better than the 512 I just sold. Fact. Don't know why, newer BIOS / Memory, whatever. It's a nicer card all round. I don't care if it's a 4Gb card and the compression is rubbish, if the price fits and the performance is there, job done...
 
hmmmmm
you guys !!!!!!!!!
i have a brandnew unopened 4870 here, theres something about an unopened box ! i want to open it and put it back in.
thing is the 260 has boosted my vantage and 06 scores dramatically, fc2, crysis and warhead too. . . but theres too much hype in this thread telling me the 4870 does it, for price maybe so but performance id say not
have a look at my vantage score for the 260 http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dmv=515566

compared to the 4870 score P8755.
surely this is enough to suggest that the 260 performs better than the 4870.
the 4870 was oc'ed and wouldnt go anymore
 
mosleypup said:
hmmmmm
you guys !!!!!!!!!
i have a brandnew unopened 4870 here, theres something about an unopened box ! i want to open it and put it back in.
thing is the 260 has boosted my vantage and 06 scores dramatically, fc2, crysis and warhead too. . . but theres too much hype in this thread telling me the 4870 does it, for price maybe so but performance id say not
have a look at my vantage score for the 260 http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dmv=515566

compared to the 4870 score P8755.
surely this is enough to suggest that the 260 performs better than the 4870.
the 4870 was oc'ed and wouldnt go anymore
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If you're happy with the 260, keep it then! nVidia is better for Crysis, so a no brainer. I got my 4870 1Gb for £193.00, and play Grid and COD4 so my choice of card is correct for my gaming...

I wouldn't judge a card on benchmark scores, stick to how well your games play.

In six month it's all change again anyhow!
 
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layte said:
What did the people who paid nearly £500 for a 280 get?

(ripped off until ATI sucker punched them with the 4k series)
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Cards that work? cards they don't have to send back? Cards that don't run like ovens? Much better drivers? Longer warranties?

If you're dumb enough to buy on release whether ATI and Nv then you deserve to get ripped off.

If you want bang for the buck - buy ATI, if you want a better quality product, buy Nvidia.
 
mosleypup said:
hmmmmm
you guys !!!!!!!!!
i have a brandnew unopened 4870 here, theres something about an unopened box ! i want to open it and put it back in.
thing is the 260 has boosted my vantage and 06 scores dramatically, fc2, crysis and warhead too. . . but theres too much hype in this thread telling me the 4870 does it, for price maybe so but performance id say not
have a look at my vantage score for the 260 http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dmv=515566

compared to the 4870 score P8755.
surely this is enough to suggest that the 260 performs better than the 4870.
the 4870 was oc'ed and wouldnt go anymore
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Your old enough & have been on this forum long enough to know better that a gfx cards overall performance between makes can not be judged by3Dmark vantage/06 & can be further skewed by heavy driver optimising or not just for vantage/06.
 
Malazan said:
Cards that work? cards they don't have to send back? Cards that don't run like ovens? Much better drivers? Longer warranties?

If you're dumb enough to buy on release whether ATI and Nv then you deserve to get ripped off.

If you want bang for the buck - buy ATI, if you want a better quality product, buy Nvidia.
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All of your supposed issues can be tossed directly at both Nvidia and ATI. If things were as bad as you and some of the more vocal fanboys that inhabit this forum make out, then Nvidia would not have had to go into fire sale mode on their pricing as they would have nothing to worry about.
 
layte said:
All of your supposed issues can be tossed directly at both Nvidia and ATI. If things were as bad as you and some of the more vocal fanboys that inhabit this forum make out, then Nvidia would not have had to go into fire sale mode on their pricing as they would have nothing to worry about.
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Incorrect.

I'm not a fanboy, i have owned cards from both companies over the years.

This series if ATI cards have quite clearly been more problematic that Nv's, check the forums, problem after problem, the report of a 24:1 return ratio...

ATI produce cheaper, but poorer quality cards, they are often faster and better value, but they are not of the same quality as Nv. Not at the moment.

Nv had to go into a fire-sale because they ludicrously overpriced thier cards and ATI kicked thier a** with a great bang for buck series.

It's nothing to do with quality, they were greedy, and buyers told them where to stuff thier cards.
 
Malazan said:
Incorrect.

ATI produce cheaper, but poorer quality cards, they are often faster and better value, but they are not of the same quality as Nv. Not at the moment.

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This you'll need to provide solid proof for.....

It is certainly not the cards that are causing problem after problem. If you look inside my sig you'll see I am using a HD4870 512MB and I have had hardly any problems, some GTX260 users are likely to have had more problems than me, especially if they got faulty ones with odd temperatures.

The ATi cards have their problems but the Nvidia ones do, was a huge thread about a problem allot of people seem to be getting on them, I was one of those that did not have it.
 
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