19 year old commits suicide live on bodybuilding.com

Viper² said:
How were they to know he was dead? Just because some people from the Internet said so?
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By the same method that the "people from the Internet" knew; he had a bloody webcam on him the whole time!

If they weren't sure he was dead, why not bring the paramedics? I don't understand the guns, either. What's that all about? And why point them at him?

There's something very wrong with a country in which (b) two planes hit a couple of skyscrapers in broad daylight before thousands of witnesses but a bunch of people start denying that it actually happened, and (b) a guy commits suicide on his webcam with full video footage of the event (and the webcam still running when the cops arrived) but the cops respond by bursting into the dead guy's room, throwing something at his corpse and threatening it with loaded firearms.

I wonder how they deal with the victims of car accidents?

"Put your hands on your head and step out of the vehicle please, sir".
"My legs are broken and my arms are trapped beneath the steering wheel!!!"
"If you do not comply I will be required to use force sir, now step out of the vehicle please..."

And so on and so forth, with predictable results.
 
etom said:
with the amount of people "contemplating" suicide its no wonder people egged him on! if you really cant stand living and want to die get on with it, its annoying hearing hearsay and what ifs constantly.
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Actually try to gain an ounce of understanding before posting crap like that you ****ing idiot, no one deserves to be egged on to kill themselves when they are in a suicidal state, these people are ill, why is it that people find it so hard to differentiate between physical and mental illnesses, sigh, a majority of people that are going through depression coupled with suicidal tendencies don't actually want to kill themselves which is why many people fail, there's a part of them that dreams that one day they will feel normal, that one day they will wake up and not hate the person they see in the mirror, it's a desperate and painful internal struggle within yourself, after years of feeling like that and living in a society where so many people just don't grasp or even understand what a mental illness actually is, or what depression can actually do to a person,

You become so desperate for the pain to stop that suicide grows on you as the only option to stop feeling the way that you do, but at the same time your so scared, so alone, so you try to pluck up the courage and come as close to taking your life as you possibly can, It's a bit like playing Russian roulette, a part of you hopes you bite the bullet but another part of you wants make it through, in the end it's all you think about, each time you attempt it you feel alive, until making yourself suffer is the only time you actually feel anything, hell when your feeling so unemotional even feeing pain is something to hang onto, it's not easy to kill yourself, normal people say "oh well If I ever got depressed and wanted to kill myself I would just do it, its' simple", it's not that simple.


dmpoole said:
I reckon 99.9%
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Really ?, and where did you pull that percentage from ? and please don't quote your job because nothing you do qualifies you to make such stupid statistical assumption like that.
 
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[TW]Fox;12936468 said:
How true is it to say that anybody unstable enough to be able to be egged on into suicide would have done it themselves at some point anyway?
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I'd say this was fairly true, to be honest. You have to be of a particular mindset to do something so serious against your will, because some strangers said it'd be funny.

It was clearly going to happen anyway, he just wanted soemone to stop him.
 
lowrider007 said:
Really ?, and where did you pull that percentage from ? and please don't quote your job because nothing you do qualifies you to be make such stupid statistical assumptions like that.
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Why the hell have you bought my job into it?
Some people on here are complete *********.
I just hope I NEVER attack people and their jobs on here, if I do I'll commit suicide.
I work in Human resources - I AM NOT A DOCTOR - pillock.

The figure was pulled out of my ass and actual experience of spending months in front of a psychiatrist and other mental cases.
I reckon that anybody who can be egged on are contemplating doing it anyway.
 
DampCat said:
I'd say this was fairly true, to be honest. You have to be of a particular mindset to do something so serious against your will, because some strangers said it'd be funny.

It was clearly going to happen anyway, he just wanted soemone to stop him.
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It makes a BIG difference at that moment in time, millions of people are talked out of suicide every year, millions, that's a fact, if people can be talked out of suicide then people can be egged on into doing it, it's a terrible and inhuman thing to do and using the excuse (I'm not referring to you I'm just generalising) "they would probably kill themselves anyway" is an excuse only an bad person would use.
 
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lowrider007 said:
It makes a BIG difference at that moment in time, millions of people are talked out of suicide every year, millions, that's a fact, if people can be talked out of suicide then people can be egged on into doing it, it's a terrible and inhuman thing to do and using the excuse (I'm not referring to you I'm just generalising) "they would probably kill themselves anyway" is an excuse only an bad person would use.
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I can appreciate what you're saying, but i just cannot wrap my head around the idea that somebody can be talked into taking their own life unless they were inches from doing it anyway. On top of that, being egged on by faceless strangers who dont know you (thus can't honestly "want" you to die) only really adds to the instability that must be present to carry out the task.

Sure, "in the moment" you probably do surrender rational thought processes but if you've honestly broken down your entire life into two scenarios, "live" and "die", then you've already killed yourself, you just haven't pulled the trigger yet.

I dont know what happened, i'm not claiming that i understand the situation., because i really, really don't. I just can't comprehend how it can reach that stage. And you know what? i'm glad of that, because the idea of it upsets me.
 
lowrider007 said:
Actually try to gain an ounce of understanding before posting crap like that you ****ing idiot, no one deserves to be egged on to kill themselves when they are in a suicidal state, these people are ill, why is it that people find it so hard to differentiate between physical and mental illnesses, sigh, a majority of people that are going through depression coupled with suicidal tendencies don't actually want to kill themselves which is why many people fail, there's a part of them that dreams that one day they will feel normal, that one day they will wake up and not hate they person the see on the mirror, it's a desperate and painful internal struggle within yourself, after years of feeling like that and living in a society where so many people just don't grasp or even understand what a mental illness actually is, or what depression can actually do to a person,

You become so desperate for the pain to stop that suicide grows on you as the only option to stop feeling the way that you do, but at the same your so scared, so alone, so you try to to pluck up the courage and come as close to taking your life as you possibly can, It's a bit like playing Russian roulette, a part of you hopes you bite the bullet but another part of you wants make it through, in the end it's all you think about, each time you attempt it you feel alive, until making yourself suffer is the only time you actually feel anything, hell when your feeling so unemotional even feeing pain something you to hang onto, it's not easy to kill yourself, normal people say "oh well If I ever got depressed and wanted to kill myself I would just do it, its' simple", it's not that simple.
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Well said mate.
 
dmpoole said:
actual experience of spending months in front of a psychiatrist and other mental cases.
I reckon that anybody who can be egged on are contemplating doing it anyway.
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Well you haven't learnt much then you because when someone is on the verge of committing suicide words are very important, they are the only tool you have to bring that person back, they are in a very very fragile state of mind, one wrong word and they can go through with it, yes it's pretty dam obvious that they are already seriously contemplating killing themselves and yes they may well of gone through with it even without egging them on, but you have a look at the percentages of people that have been talked out of it and think about this, 1000 people threatening to kill themselves, 500 people have someone trying to talk them out of it, and 500 people have someone egging them on, trust me, I think everyone knows which group would have the most fatality's, you see it's not about 'oh well they would end up killing themselves anyway' it's about getting them through that single moment in time, if you can talk them out of it them they can be saved, end of they day that's what they want, sometimes suicide is a last cry for help, you feel the whole world is against you, your all alone, your just looking for someone to help you get though it but then all your hear is "go on do it I dare you", trust me, it makes a difference, I have a lot of experience in this area.
 
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The_One said:
A guy in america who frequented bodybuilding.com posted on the forum last night saying he was contemplating suicide.

Members of the forum then egged him on to do it and os he did, he rigged up the webcam. Overdosed on pills and never woke up.

How messed up are some people to egg someone on like that on a forum! :eek:

Theres a video at the bottom which is from the webcam, it shows the moment police kick the door in and find him :(
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well to be fair...

they prob thought he was going to NOT do it.. and... its not like you can convince someone to commit suicide easily they dont deserve any blame, its the guys problem
 
platinum87 said:
well to be fair...

they prob thought he was going to NOT do it.. and... its not like you can convince someone to commit suicide easily they dont deserve any blame, its the guys problem
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Your right, you can't, but you can push someone over the edge, when someone is in two minds fighting a battle inside themselves whether they should kill themselves or not then you have to be very careful what you say, you are speaking to someone that most probably lost all faith in society, that thinks no one cares, now when someone is in that situation they are balancing life and death on a 'tightrope', yes convincing that person to get on that 'tightrope' in the first place may be tricky, but you come along and tell that person that is already up there in that mental state of mind 'to kill them selves' egging them on etc then that can very easily be the wind that unbalances them, you see not really convincing them to kill themselves, but what your essentially doing is giving them the ammunition to kill themselves.
 
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