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Many benchmarks of 180 drivers - Performance increases

Well all my posts have been removed, yet the post where I get called a fanboy remains.

I'm going to stop posting in this forum - clearly the Mods have a green tint too. At least now I understand why it's allowed to run rampant and unchecked.

Have fun all.
 
HangTime said:
Yeah you'd have to say that if NV have been able to get to a position where they are faster in TWIMTBP titles, that's certainly a big step forward for them due to the wide support for the program. Personally I've never paid much attention to that really since I always had it down as a marketing gimmick, but if it really is the case that they have the edge in those titles then that's a pretty good guide, thanks for the tip-off LoadsaMoney.

^^as for the 4870 vs GTX260 thing, at launch time the 4870 was definitely faster in most cases, even without going to 8xAA. The real problem with the GTX260 of course was the price, £260 at launch compared to the 4870 at £180. Now that the price has been slashed, a 216 core variant released, and the drivers beefed up, things are a lot more interesting.
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It just reminds of when all the ATi lot were spunking all over HL2 being faster on theirs and all the Nvidia lot screaming about that being because Valve was in bed with them. :D

I agree with you about the 4870 vs GTX260 (original 192 shader), as it wasn't all that good really against the cheaper 4870, and Nvidia obviously now know that given how quick they've canned it in favour of a more beefed up one with more shaders, more texturing filters etc... and brought its price in line with the 4870, so its now a much better card, and now the card to go for out of the two. :)
 
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Well I have really loved my 4850 & 4870 but both are close to being dumped right now for GTX260-216 Maxcores as they are clearly the new speed king & VFM is good.

Thats not to take anything away from ATI as they did an amazing job and brought low prices from NV by having a superior launch product & strong performance for the money.

But now the 4870-512/1024 is clearly not a match for GTX260-216s in most games. Annoyed with ATI as they are sitting back on existing strong sales and not giving us a newer card to beat these Maxcores. 4870X2 is terrific but as some games do not support both the GPU's no way am I wasting money on getting one.

So as I want a fast single card solution my only current choices are GTX280 or GTX260-216.

In this current economic downturn you can bet R&D has been slashed so hardware refreshes are going to slow down drastically for the next year or so. Probably go back to the 6-9 month period.

Anyone know how to tell if you can find out before ordering if a GTX280 is 55nm??
 
Another thing to consider: the 260 216 is basically a 280GTX.

Add to that I'm sure those benchmarks are canned somehow.
 
LoadsaMoney said:
It just reminds of when all the ATi lot were spunking all over HL2 being faster on theirs and all the Nvidia lot screaming about that being because Valve was in bed with them. :D
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I think the problem there was that in DX9 mode the NV cards had to run something at 32bit precision as they didn't support the 24bit variant used by ATI. This crippled shader performance on the FX series in benchmarking terms, when in reality most people could run the game much quicker with only a marginal reduction in quality. Obviously ATI hardware performed better even so (say in DX8.1 mode), but that's basically because the 9x00 series was better than the FX series by and large.

Kinda similar in a way to the Assassin's Creed DX10.1 fiasco, whereby developers are leaving themselves open to accusations of bias by not fully supporting certain features from a particular vendor.
 
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I've installed these drivers, does anyone know how to turn on the PhysX extensions?

I've set them to 'enabled' in the drivers, but I still can't play any PhysX demos...
 
Yamahahahahaha said:
Slightly OT:
I've installed these drivers, does anyone know how to turn on the PhysX extensions?

I've set them to 'enabled' in the drivers, but I still can't play any PhysX demos...
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Have you installed the PhysX runtime?

http://www.nvidia.com/object/physx_8.10.13_whql.html

Now back to the subject of this thread. Some very impressive numbers, I wonder how much is genuine optimisation, and how much is purposely held back for future 'big bangs' such as this. No matter it is a nice free speed increase, hopefully it will kick team red into action as well.
 
I know these drivers are really for the new top off line cards! But has their being much improvement in the 8 Series? Like the 8800GTS 512 :P?
 
layte said:
oops! Looks like somebody forgot their Nvidia reviewers manual...
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3462&p=4
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Can't really trust them anymore (for ages they have publishes some dodgy results like in the summer 8800GTX beating 4850!!) and most of their games tested are older if you try newer titles I bet the FPS will be more. Seen several websites in the pas tfew days which I cannot link to as contain competitors where it shows the 216 pulling ahead a little but on average its around 5-7% faster with these drivers than 4870
1GB.
 
MR.B said:
I was hoping all the immature ATI fankids wouldn't start. Always the same people too.
It's funny how it happens a lot more with NV stuff, if this was a ATI thread Tute and all the rest would be getting hard ons.

Just posted this thread to help new buyers mostly.
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Go away with your 'us and them' while complaining about fanboys, you're just perpetuating the whole thing yourself just as bad as the people you're complaining about. fool. :rolleyes:
 
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