Thailand Trip

haha yeah i know! i didn't know the train stopped at one end, i saw it approaching and broke into a sprint down the other end.
 
A lot of people in here seem very against Pattaya. Why is this? I haven't really looked at it tbh, it's not en route to anywhere I'm going so it will involve going out the way.

I am not one of the people that sees anything wrong with Pattaya, morally.However there is absolutely no reason to visit there unless you are going to partake in the prostitutes.
 
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Tiger temple was utter, utter tripe!!!

The area was barren, nothing to see apart from drugged tigers chained to the ground, who didn't move at all. There was a "temple" which was a tourist trap.

"Oh, they sleep during the day" - what a load of rubbish, if tigers had people clambering all over them, they'd rip them to shreds.

Even the baby ones we played with were out of it.

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Oh, read about my Thailand trip here

I have to disagree, I thought it was one of the best things I did in Thailand. I didn't find them drugged at all and the little ones were absolute terrors, not dozy at all. If you read the I posted before a gent from the RSPCA went out there and confirmed this.

You can only visit between 1pm and 4.30pm which is sleep time for tigers....and Italians...and Spaniards but that's a different issue. They are also fed just before. So hootest par tof the day + food = sleep.

They don't attack people because they've spent their whole lives associated with people and have no need to defend themselves from us.

The big ones are chained down but have plenty of length to move. The little ones are lead around with leads. I was quite happy that they were chained down and you can pet them - what's the closest anyone has been to a tiger before hand? 20 meters away behind two fences in a zoo! I just stroked a tiger weighing almost a ton! I loved it!

I didn't have any issues with waiting around, I had my own tour guide and car, was only £60.
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Alex2001 (or anyone else that's been), do you have anymore info on the north of Thailand? I'm going traveling around SE Asia in Jan and am looking at the North of Thailand, particular Chiang Mai, Pai, Mae Hong Son, and Mae Sariang.

Trouble is the budget for our trip is not as big as I hoped for so I'm looking at places to cut out of the trip and northern Thailand is one of those we might have to dip out on.

I will be backpacking so the way I live will probably be very different to those who have been on a holiday mind.

For me there are three bits of thailand that you have to experience namely bangkok, The North and The Islands. The Joy of Thailand is once your there this can be done for e a pittance especially if you have plenty of time for example the train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai costs next to nothing. There is so much to experience that I really don't think it should be missed, nobody I know who has been has been anything but posotive.

Pattaya as people have said is fine if you wan't to use the 'local services' and have no problems seeing fat old westeners parading around with very young girls. Personally I have no time for either so we gave it a miss. I would however encourage anyone going to Thailand to not avoid the red light ditricts they are definately worth seeing even as a couple.

We avoided the tiger temple I've heard to many negtive reports mixed in with the posotives and it would have broken my heart if I'd been and not liked the way the animals were treated.
 
I have to disagree, I thought it was one of the best things I did in Thailand.
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Different places then? I have photos of the "Tiger Canyon" that shows they have 1metre of chain, and every single person who left the place hated it
 
I imagine it would be different places, but generally I feel like the animals will be drugged. Despite some people saying that the tigers have been brought up around humans, many of them are actually rescued tigers and are not 'domesticated.' The fact is that big cats are not like dogs and are very dangerous. There's a reason why in Africa you can sit down and stroke a fully awake Cheetah, with heavy explanations on what you can and cannot do to it, but not a lion.

I feel a little bit like people are deluding themselves over this. If you're running a tiger tourist attraction like this, even in Thailand, if someone agitated a tiger somehow and it smacked them with its paw, it's a 200kg animal (not approximately 1 tonne as Vanilla seems to have been told) it's going to cause them injury and really hurt business.

If you've got the choice between taking that sort of risk with very dangerous animals and giving them a sedative, which is the sensible businessman going to choose?

Use your heads guys. Regardless of whether or a not an animal has spent its life with people, it's still dangerous. You've all seen the clip of an extremely highly trained German Shepherd police dog biting that person's face during an interview because something in their body language upset the dog. Now multiply that by one of the largest predatory mammals on the planet which has had no training.
 
Different places then? I have photos of the "Tiger Canyon" that shows they have 1metre of chain, and every single person who left the place hated it

Some had 1m, some had more - it depends on where they were chained. The ones with more chain were further away from their neighbours. The thing with the chain is its just to prevent them from being too close to eachother.

The little ones were on long leashes and basically roamed around causing a ruckus, going from one adult to another and picking play fights.

Everyone I was with and we spoke to loved it!
 
Just spent 3 weeks in Thailand, just got back and missed the problems at the airport by one day!

4 days in Bangkok,floating market,tiger sanctuary etc then the rest in Pataya.If your single then 100% you have to go to Pataya! Dont just spend all your time in walking street either as other bars outside the main walk are just as good(and cheaper).

But my god the women, 'hey sexy man'. Hell yeah.

Pataya manages to encompass just about all the worst aspects of thailand into one place. Avoid.
 
I’m gonna hijack and post some of my pics.

Hotel:

I stayed in a suite, cost the equivalent of £60 a night. A lot in Thailand but nothing in the grand scheme of things. This was my chillout time on the way back from New Zealand so there was plenty of pampering.

I’ve reduced the picture quality greatly.

Had walk in lobby, bedroom livingroom, kitchen and bathroom with Jacuzzi

Entrance

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Bedroom

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living room

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