Grand Theft Auto 4

Does anyone think the 2900xt will have problems??

It doesn't mention it in that list things :P
 
rypt said:
No, but they can make the console like the PC platform, where you are free to swap out and add components so that games can improve and evolve rather than staying the same overall GFX level for 3-5 years.
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But then how do you deal with those people who don't/can't upgrade their consoles? Do they get excluded from playing the "upgrade required" games completely? Do they have to suffer lacklustre performance or inferior visuals?

The N64 already tried the approach you're suggesting, essentially forcing people to buy more hardware so they can continue playing the latest games.
 
TheVoice said:
But then how do you deal with those people who don't/can't upgrade their consoles? Do they get excluded from playing the "upgrade required" games completely? Do they have to suffer lacklustre performance or inferior visuals?

The N64 already tried the approach you're suggesting, essentially forcing people to buy more hardware so they can continue playing the latest games.
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How do you deal with it on the PC? You do the same on the console (in effect making the console nothing but a gloryfied vendor-lock-in gaming PC).
 
TheVoice said:
The N64 already tried the approach you're suggesting, essentially forcing people to buy more hardware so they can continue playing the latest games.
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Found one of those Memory Expansion Cartridges things in a box the other day, £30 I think it cost me, for 4MB. :)

Can't remember what game I bought it for.
 
corssifire will always have some bugs for example still in css they did not fix when u get flashed screen jumps around.

single card setups for the win.
 
I stopped reading at the bit about the console being made like a pc platform. I'm getting deja-vu moments from a good 3yrs ago now.
 
I'm not sure how that test was carried out, but most people probably own a system with a single core in it, but for there main systems it is probably less. I mean I still have a single core CPU PC in the study, but the main PC in my room is a quad.

I think most people who want to play GTA IV will either have a console or a dual core PC at the very least.

that test is old anyway as the best card on there is a 8800GTX and 10% have one, apparently making it the most popular card, hmmm...
 
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rypt said:
How do you deal with it on the PC? You do the same on the console (in effect making the console nothing but a gloryfied vendor-lock-in gaming PC).
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But it's not the same, so you can't just say that. If you're going to make such a suggestion, at least back it up.
 
yantorsen said:
I'm not sure how that test was carried out, but most people probably own a system with a single core in it, but for there main systems it is probably less. I mean I still have a single core CPU PC in the study, but the main PC in my room is a quad.

I think most people who want to play GTA IV will either have a console or a dual core PC at the very least.

that test is old anyway as the best card on there is a 8800GTX and 10% have one, apparently making it the most popular card, hmmm...
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The survey works by collecting data from your computer - ie. it doesn't require you to answer questions so its accuracy is assured (again, among Steam users and not necessarily all PC gamers as a whole).

There must be plenty of people with late model P4s and A64s etc. with decent graphics cards which are still running most games okay, who would have hoped to play this game on low settings at least.

I'm not sure how recent the survey is but I believe it was last carried out a few months ago. Newer cards may fall into the 'other' category.
 
hmmm, perhaps, but you can't hold onto a single core forever. The industry has to move forward. Most other modern games would run pretty shoddy on a single core.
 
yantorsen said:
hmmm, perhaps, but you can't hold onto a single core forever. The industry has to move forward. Most other modern games would run pretty shoddy on a single core.
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Well a lot of games still only use one core - they are faster on modern CPUs simply because modern CPUs are much more efficient clock for clock than older CPUs.

I'm not saying older CPUs should be able to run GTA IV at 60fps, just that it would be unusual if the game flat out refused to run on them, which I have heard rumoured is the case but hasn't been confirmed.

It doesn't affect me as I have a quad, but I hope for other people's sake it runs on single cores :)
 
Yeah true, especially as GTA IV doesn't seem to be the most CPU intensive game in the world.

I don't think many modern games will run on a single core tbh. Except maybe the sims.
 
yantorsen said:
Yeah true, especially as GTA IV doesn't seem to be the most CPU intensive game in the world.

I don't think many modern games will run on a single core tbh. Except maybe the sims.
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Any CPU up to about eight years old should *run* any game whatsoever. I'm not talking about the speed, I'm talking about it actually running.
 
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