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HD4870 1gb vs. GTX 260-216

twoblacklines said:
But it wont run properly on ati cards without the hotfix. THIS is the point, nvidia drivers are much better than ati ones.

Plus i game 8 hours a day if i have a day off, and i fold the other 16, folding on ati cards = fail.
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Who said it WONT run properly on ATi cards? The Hotfix did not make one bit of difference on my rig so I beg to differ....
 
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Margaret said:
http://www.guru3d.com/article/amd-ati-radeon-hd-4870-1024mb-review/9

WHOA! Look at that GTX 260, it's like 1 or 2 frames above at best! NO WAY DUDE!

Wait, the 260 is below the 4870 at 1920x1200 and above, how about that! Crazy times.
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#1 - Document is dated before NVidia released the 180.48 drivers which gave a substantial boost in performance.

#2- I mentioned my 260-192, not 216 at an OC of 710 core. Yes, stock they will be close but 260's major pulling factor is the huge OC headroom. People here have the 260-216 hitting 730+ core stable.

#3- Yes way 'dude' :p
 
Well I'm still pretty much decided on the 260-216, the overall package you get just seems better to me, support/drivers etc.

Also I dont know if its just be, but ATi stuff seems cheap looking somehow, i know its only packaging and design and doent dictate performance, but they look tacky/cheaply made somehow, and not well thought out. Puts me off non the less.
 
Sipha said:
Also I dont know if its just be, but ATi stuff seems cheap looking somehow, i know its only packaging and design and doent dictate performance, but they look tacky/cheaply made somehow, and not well thought out. Puts me off non the less.
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Well, to throw this spanner in the works, the box on my 4870 was more sturdy and slick than my 8800GT, at that moment I knew it would be a better card! HELL YEAH, better box = better card! WOO.

Not sure about that comment really, a graphics card is...a graphics card, my 4870 doesn't feel cheap or of any less quality than any other card I've had in the past, and I haven't had an ATi since 2003 odd.

Seems like an attempt to justify your upcoming purchase, fair enough by all means but please make it a fair reason that doesn't make you sound silly. :)
 
My 4870 box was bloody well packaged, was a solid box too I can stand on it and it don't hurt it, I only weight 11.5stone though.

Whats cheaper? Red or Green? I'm sure if ATi cards where Green too you would not be able to tell the difference straight off... :p
 
Here's an interesting comparison of cards, altho not particularly relevant to the OP it's made me think twice about changing my 9800GX2 for the GTX280 as it's on a par playing Crysis

the video shows 4 maxed out Crysis screens at the same time with ATI 4870 & Nvidia cards

 
Margaret said:
Well, to throw this spanner in the works, the box on my 4870 was more sturdy and slick than my 8800GT, at that moment I knew it would be a better card! HELL YEAH, better box = better card! WOO.

Not sure about that comment really, a graphics card is...a graphics card, my 4870 doesn't feel cheap or of any less quality than any other card I've had in the past, and I haven't had an ATi since 2003 odd.

Seems like an attempt to justify your upcoming purchase, fair enough by all means but please make it a fair reason that doesn't make you sound silly. :)
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Just a passing observation, dont take it personally ;)

I've never liked ATi much as I've said, I guess I could be finding reasons why not to buy 1, as I say tho these current crop of red cards have atleast taken my interest so thats a start :)
 
$329.99 for XFX GeForce GTX 260 Black Edition
$264.99 for cheap brand 4870 1gb (that review didnt show a make). Only checked 1 site that stocked them btw, so it may be difftent elsewhere :p

Is the 25% price increase worth the exra 3-4FPS ?

Reviews should really put a graph with prices at the bottom too lol.
 
EvilOne said:
$329.99 for XFX GeForce GTX 260 Black Edition
$264.99 for cheap brand 4870 1gb (that review didnt show a make). Only checked 1 site that stocked them btw, so it may be difftent elsewhere :p

Is the 25% price increase worth the exra 3-4FPS ?

Reviews should really put a graph with prices at the bottom too lol.
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read what i wrote, stock card vs stock card the gtx wins 3v2, i could only find the black review giving 8xaa performance graphs, just ignore the black and look at the stock gtx 260 216

they sell for $260 in the US
 
yeah it was fair as it showed stock cards as well.

I do agree that the AA performance sure does look to keep up with or beat ATI, but it would be nice to see more than 1 review doing 8xAA benches.

I wonder how the ATI refresh will turn out..the 48xx series weak point is clock speeds. Above 800-850 these cards REALLY REALLY fly....if ATI can release some cards that OC to over 900 I think they will take back the crown that I admit they are losing to Nvidia at the moment.
 
would a 260 f.t.w. automatically be a 216 card even if it doesn't say so?

(not that I know what any of this means lol)

Cheers,

G
 
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