Weekend Fuseball 6-8th December *SPOiLERS*
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lets see, mostly playing left wing last year he got 18 assists, only person with more was fabregas, he scored, 12-14 goals, somewhere around that, which puts him at twice the assists of wingers you'd normally rate as good, and more goals than 90% of wingers aswell, he's consistant, he can play varied positions. He isn't a little girl like Robben, he takes a ridiculously good freekick and corner, again something you wouldn't attribute to Robben.
Silva, other than being midly good in the Euro's and basically no one talking about him before, or since, isn't that good, he's also a pushover and only looked great because Xavi and Fabregas gave him such good passes. He also tracks back and, I forget which game it was in but I think it was against Man U he made an unbelievable tackle in his own area to stop a shot and probably goal and he'd sprinted 80yards to do so, again I wouldn't remotely expect Robben to help out defensively. He also doesn't dive every 3 seconds and Joe Cole, pah, diver, pathetic, fouls a lot, and half of his goals are incredibly lucky deflections.
he's also, younger than most of the winger's around him and doing significantly better at a non top 4 club in whatever league similar players are playing for. Its easier to get assits, and goals at Real Madrid, in general than at Villa. I would also say he(aswell as Gabby) fear no teams and frequently rip apart and both can score against any opposition, they don't look good against Derby and crap against Man U /Chelsea(in general) like so many other players that only perform against the bottom 3 clubs.
Just for you Weebull, Arsenal suck balls. Wenger made Eboue a complete scapegoat despite the whole team giving it away, for the sake of 2 minutes, after he took him off Silvestre did no better, Song gave it away repeatedly and you could argue that the Toure incident, the tired Eboue didn't move, Toure ran 30 yards directly into him, I find it hard to blame that particular incident on Eboue seeing as Toure could have run anywhere. He was out of position with no left foot, tired, first game in near 2 months, coming back from injury and asked to play a long part of the game, what was Songs/denilsons excuse for giving it away all game and every game, why make Eboue the scapegoat? He's since in the press said he was crap and now is going on about Fabregas could be the first to go, what nonsense to say in the press, he's only going to encourage clubs to think Fabregas is available, right before the transfer window despite Fabregas saying he won't leave. He's simply asking for trouble, he's gone completely insane.
EDIT:- I'd also happily see Arsenal buy Laursen along with Young, however that twit won't spend money on them, Young however 2 years ago looked on his way to being this good easily, probably £15mil, for a player thats far stronger, faster and much better than Theo, Rosicky and maybe Nasri whose skill is great but has a little lack of pace for the premiership and to take advantage of his trickyness, he can "do" players but he can't pull away which maybe shows up in the prem a lot more than the french league. He fitted the Arsenal mould perfectly tbh so not sure why we didn't go for him. Laursen would just simply be a fantastic defender for us, great in the air, great for attacking corners aswell as defensively and quite underated(though his price tag must be going up constantly) so probably still a bargain compared to buying in a Ferdinand.
Silva, other than being midly good in the Euro's and basically no one talking about him before, or since, isn't that good, he's also a pushover and only looked great because Xavi and Fabregas gave him such good passes. He also tracks back and, I forget which game it was in but I think it was against Man U he made an unbelievable tackle in his own area to stop a shot and probably goal and he'd sprinted 80yards to do so, again I wouldn't remotely expect Robben to help out defensively. He also doesn't dive every 3 seconds and Joe Cole, pah, diver, pathetic, fouls a lot, and half of his goals are incredibly lucky deflections.
he's also, younger than most of the winger's around him and doing significantly better at a non top 4 club in whatever league similar players are playing for. Its easier to get assits, and goals at Real Madrid, in general than at Villa. I would also say he(aswell as Gabby) fear no teams and frequently rip apart and both can score against any opposition, they don't look good against Derby and crap against Man U /Chelsea(in general) like so many other players that only perform against the bottom 3 clubs.
Just for you Weebull, Arsenal suck balls. Wenger made Eboue a complete scapegoat despite the whole team giving it away, for the sake of 2 minutes, after he took him off Silvestre did no better, Song gave it away repeatedly and you could argue that the Toure incident, the tired Eboue didn't move, Toure ran 30 yards directly into him, I find it hard to blame that particular incident on Eboue seeing as Toure could have run anywhere. He was out of position with no left foot, tired, first game in near 2 months, coming back from injury and asked to play a long part of the game, what was Songs/denilsons excuse for giving it away all game and every game, why make Eboue the scapegoat? He's since in the press said he was crap and now is going on about Fabregas could be the first to go, what nonsense to say in the press, he's only going to encourage clubs to think Fabregas is available, right before the transfer window despite Fabregas saying he won't leave. He's simply asking for trouble, he's gone completely insane.
EDIT:- I'd also happily see Arsenal buy Laursen along with Young, however that twit won't spend money on them, Young however 2 years ago looked on his way to being this good easily, probably £15mil, for a player thats far stronger, faster and much better than Theo, Rosicky and maybe Nasri whose skill is great but has a little lack of pace for the premiership and to take advantage of his trickyness, he can "do" players but he can't pull away which maybe shows up in the prem a lot more than the french league. He fitted the Arsenal mould perfectly tbh so not sure why we didn't go for him. Laursen would just simply be a fantastic defender for us, great in the air, great for attacking corners aswell as defensively and quite underated(though his price tag must be going up constantly) so probably still a bargain compared to buying in a Ferdinand.
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one thing I don't get, all our numbers, which can't really be faked as you can't commit fraud publishing fake numbers, say we make £30mil a year profit, our board is made up of lots of millionaires and some billionaires, and theres nothing to say all our transfers must come from profits, if a billionaire says you can spend £60mil of my own personal cash, so what its up to him. But the board have been saying it for years, if wengers all about making money, why isn't he buying people like Young for £10 mil and selling them for £30mil 3-4 years later? Young was at a much higher level a few years ago than Theo was, he was very expensive for such a small kid, business wise it doesn't make much sense.
we also have a massive wage bill despite a lack of real first team squad members, so we're paying our younger/youth/reserve players far more than most clubs. Are youngsters really coming to us just to play in the worthless cup, or because we're paying twice what anyone else will? Wouldn't you prefer to spend 10mil on young, that have paid Justin Hoyte 20k a week for 5 years, or Randall a decent wedge to be a woeful defensive midfielder?
If lack of transfers is about money, why's he throwing it away left right and centre on average youth players who might be good(but most aren't).
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Furious about the Toon result, beggars belief
Two toon defenders scoring late goals at St James Park, on that note I'd put Jonny Woodgate in your teams as its Toon v Spurs next, big game
Furious about the Toon result, beggars belief
Two toon defenders scoring late goals at St James Park, on that note I'd put Jonny Woodgate in your teams as its Toon v Spurs next, big game
Yes yes tell me more. Did you see how gash Eboue was?
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I was at work all weekend, can you sum up what happened, all I heard was the fans turned on him but the players supported him. Don't think thats right/full story though
God no. I think a few of us are a little nonplussed why the effort to beat players isn't there when it was, but we also understand that Berbatov doesn't work to create the space that Ronaldo utilised last season when Tevez and Rooney played.
Even saying that he's already scored quite a lot of goals already, which isn't bad for someone who missed a few weeks and spent a few more recovering from the injury. Something isn't right at the moment, but given time I'm sure it will click.
Why would we want him to go? We have no one to replace him with! (nor is there anyone who I think could replace him this year either).
A lack of first team squad members? WTF? So what are the likes of Cesc, Gallas, Toure, Sagna, RvP, Ade....
I very much doubt Hoyte was on anything like 20k a week for 5 years, I'd doubt he'd be on anything like that figure apart from maybe his last year at the club. Heck I'd suggest we made a profit on him considering he was sold for £3m.
You do realise players like Randall would have been on £60 a week at the age of 16. That's all Wilshere gets.
The likes of Ramsey didn't move for money, he moved to play football. Plenty of other Arsenal youths play in other games other than the league cup.
Again I guess you know more that Martin Keown who has work with said 'woeful' player...
I just don't get why your and Arsenal 'Fan'
A lack of first team squad members? WTF? So what are the likes of Cesc, Gallas, Toure, Sagna, RvP, Ade....
I very much doubt Hoyte was on anything like 20k a week for 5 years, I'd doubt he'd be on anything like that figure apart from maybe his last year at the club. Heck I'd suggest we made a profit on him considering he was sold for £3m.
You do realise players like Randall would have been on £60 a week at the age of 16. That's all Wilshere gets.
The likes of Ramsey didn't move for money, he moved to play football. Plenty of other Arsenal youths play in other games other than the league cup.
Again I guess you know more that Martin Keown who has work with said 'woeful' player...
I just don't get why your and Arsenal 'Fan'
Whiule junior players may well be on a basic of £60/week or whatever - I would be surprised even at 16/17 or whatever that they didnt get £x,000's per start /sub appearance
He's blatantly not. I don't think I've ever seen him post anything remotely positive about the team. He's clearly just a massive troll.I just don't get why your an Arsenal 'Fan'
He just entertains me though; makes me laugh. So I like antagonising him into wittering on some more.
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A lack of first team squad members? WTF? So what are the likes of Cesc, Gallas, Toure, Sagna, RvP, Ade....
I very much doubt Hoyte was on anything like 20k a week for 5 years, I'd doubt he'd be on anything like that figure apart from maybe his last year at the club. Heck I'd suggest we made a profit on him considering he was sold for £3m.
You do realise players like Randall would have been on £60 a week at the age of 16. That's all Wilshere gets.
The likes of Ramsey didn't move for money, he moved to play football. Plenty of other Arsenal youths play in other games other than the league cup.
Again I guess you know more that Martin Keown who has work with said 'woeful' player...
I just don't get why your and Arsenal 'Fan'
I do wonder if any of the other fans can read at all. Lack of, in no way at all means none whatsoever, is that hard to understand? For instance, look at whose starting now, Song and Denilson at Man U would never ever play in the first team, hence, not first team players. Look at Man U, Chelsea, Liverpool, you have Babel, Benayon, Alonso, did have Risse, Crouch, etc, etc as backup. OTher than in the past couple of years having a few spare strikers other than a first 11 we have a very slim "first team" squad compared to the other top 4, so why is our wage bill higher than Man U's and Liverpool's. For instance, Benny, Babel, Alonso will be on huge wages, Risse was on 90k a week apparently, they give out stupid wages and yet Arsenal, with youth unestablished non famous players and Henry did in the end just break 100k a week? Fabregas is apparently on 69k, Ade only just made 80, on 40k last year and I believe less than that the year before. So please explain to me if we're not paying our youth players where the wages are going?
As for Randall, look at him, his past several games were awful, he can't keep the ball he got infront of the goal scorer and simply forgot to clear the ball leading to Burnley's second goal. he's a good attacking midfielder, he was better against smaller players, hasn't developed very well size wise and might never, but as a defensive midfielder that he's being forced into he's crap. denilson is a pretty fantastic attacking midfielder, he's a woeful defensive midfielder, you don't have to be good at both.
Hoyte would have been on a fairly decent wage, at 3million its highly unlikely we made profit on him.
Again as in other thread, please give me the massive long list of those players who played in the worthless cup over the past 4 years, who are now estabilished at Arsenal. Bendtner barely gets a game, and when he scores he gets dropped the game after doing his confidence the world of good. Song, played more on loan than at arsenal and is only in the team due to very very small first team squad. Hoyte, Randall, Lansbury got/get a game every 4 months then nothing. We've got almost zero youth players playing at Arsenal who were trained extensively at Arsenal and I don't see why anyone can believe otherwise.
Again I'll ask, where is our 2nd highest wage bill in the prem from exactly, if we're payign youth players £60 a week, and Fabregas, our best player is on 60k, Ade is now on 80k, wheres it going? Pool, Chelsea, Man u have far more estabilished high wage players that actually get more than 5 games a year in the first team, so how the hell are we paying more money.
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Fed up with Arsenal fans blind to whats happening. not posted anything positive what utter turd, whose being the troll. Fabregas I still personally rate as the best player in the world. Eboue I think is very good, and I don't remember claiming Eboue was great yesterday either, just he was getting worse towards the end, he wasn't terrible in the first half, the fans that cheer'd him off are moron's. But its the same fans for 3 years who get on his back when he loses it instantly, never given him a chance, he was very good start of the year but if he ever lost it he got booed, the fact is, there isn't a player in the world who loses it, and I've never seen anyone get as much stick as Eboue when he does. They decided to hate him, well done, you killed his confidence.
I always loved Mad jens, what wasn't to like, I didn't really get on the bandwagon of hating him for two mistakes, when I can't name another keeper, Seaman, Almunia, VDS, Buffon who hasn't made two damn mistakes and get such stick from the fans. Pires might have been my favourite player of all time, Edu was classy, Gilberto was world class, Rosicky is fantastic to watch playing, Clichy is freaking unbelievable. I personally believe Gallas and Toure are world class, as shown by their record playing together, yet all I hear from ARsenal fans is how poor both are because one of them got upset at his friends leg breaking infront of him and the ref stealing a well faught victory away on his maybe worst day in football, nice support fans. I think RVP is one of the best signings the club has made in recent years, I think Bendtner is good given a chance and played in the right position. I think Eduardo is one of the best finishers in the world, I also thought that for the half season that Wenger didn't bother playing him till he was desparate. I think Vela could be our next Ian Wright, score from anywhere, but isn't getting a chance. I can't even remotely work out where the Toure hate came from. He's been one of our longest serving and most steady players, he's always played at a high level and his game hasn't changed, he's always been the type that occasionally lets people get past him and he's always making last ditch tackles, thats no different to 4 years ago.
infact I say all of this , all the time, nothing positive, what a **** tbh.
The problem is, he's let all our truly world class players go with no fight, and for no apparent reason, we've been getting steadily worse for 4 years coming up towards 5 now, Wengers lost it, Song, Denilson, Djourou(who might be good in time but is no where near ready) Adebayor, Hleb aren't and never were good and never will be good(Denilson not the way he's being played, he's no winger, and he's not defensive in the least, let the kid go and play in his rightful position at a club and he'll become world class, at ARsenal he'll always be Cesc's understudy and nothing more). I've mostly just complained this year as, we've been shocking.