Stopped by the rozzers !

[Shep_Cobain]

God you're hard. Bet all the Police run away when they see you dont they.

Idiot.

wtf?!?! in what way did i say i was "hard" as you put it? Why throw personal attacks?

I don't chase police, dont give them attitude, dont look for trouble.... i just let them get on with their pathetic daily duties.

It just seems that due to all the PC now in the UK... they concentrate on taking money from the public instead of dealing with the bigger crimes.

Quite honestly they annoy me!

Its just over the years they have become bullies... i work with an ex cop and he even agrees the Police of today are utter ****'s.

Dont get me wrong, there are some great officers out there, but for example:

There is a bus lane across from work that is strictly no parking. Yet people park there all the time and get £250 on the spot fines from the Police.

A copper i know of pulled into the lane the other day and a policeman went over. The man in his civi's flashed his badged and let him go. 20 minutes later a pedestrian pulled in and got fined Whats the deal with that.

Ive lost all respect for them and i feel as an overall they are scum (that doesnt make me a hard man in any way).

 

[Overlag]

My road is unlit at night, and has quite a few potholes. Even in non-foggy conditions, I find they illuminate the ground directly infront and to the sides of the car really well - so often use them temporarily to avoid damaging the car.

at what speed are you doing this? As fox as said in many other threads, by the time you SEE something in your fog light beem you have no time to react to it (unless your doing something silly like 20mph)

 

[Gaygle]

i just let them get on with their pathetic daily duties.

I'm willing to bet you don't know pretty much anything about a coppers daily duties and what they have to put up with, not only from the public, but from their own senior officers.

It just seems that due to all the PC now in the UK... they concentrate on taking money from the public instead of dealing with the bigger crimes.

So why are you moaning about the "footsoldiers"? You should be taking your problems to the government, as they are the reason for all of this. Do you honestly think coppers like having to chase targets every day and put up with all this beauocrazy (that was actually a typo, but it works really well!!)? I'm willing to bet the police would love to let go all of this BS form filling and having to report a kid that steal a mars bar from tesco, and instead just give them a stern telling off. But no, some policie somewhere will state that the kid must be taken to the station and processed and then the officer has do to this, because if he doesn't get his target of crimes detected or w.e. he starts getting told off by his superiors for not doing enough.

It's people not supporting the police or blaming them for things which they are in no way responsible for, which is leading to a break down of trust.

Its just over the years they have become bullies...

People who take this attitude are normally the ones that have been off their face/had friends off their face or something and have sworn at police, tried to start a fight with the police, or tried to insult them in (ie. "pigs") and when the police haven't let them get away with it, they refer to them as "bullies". Not saying you are, but my some of friends who are anti-police all think they know everything and if they were in government they could solve every problem in a day...

Dont get me wrong, there are some great officers out there, but for example:

There is a bus lane across from work that is strictly no parking. Yet people park there all the time and get £250 on the spot fines from the Police.

A copper i know of pulled into the lane the other day and a policeman went over. The man in his civi's flashed his badged and let him go. 20 minutes later a pedestrian pulled in and got fined Whats the deal with that.

And how do you this? did you hear it off a friend of a friend? Stand there for 20minutes with a perfect view and watch?

What happens if the police man was undercover and on his duties?

The fact is, you don't have a clue what happened there, but by convincing yourself that it was a copper misusing his powers, it makes it even easier for you to dislike the whole 120,000 (?) odd police officers in the UK.

Ive lost all respect for them and i feel as an overall they are scum (that doesnt make me a hard man in any way).

Sounds like you never had any respect for them in the first place.

 

[stockhausen]

It just seems that due to all the PC now in the UK... they concentrate on taking money from the public instead of dealing with the bigger crimes.

I think that a drunk driver killing someone might reasonably be classified as a "big crime" - certainly to the family and friends of the victim.

A copper i know of pulled into the lane the other day and a policeman went over. The man in his civi's flashed his badged and let him go. 20 minutes later a pedestrian pulled in and got fined Whats the deal with that.

Yup, I'm sure that happens - it shouldn't but it doesn't mean that people should park in the bus lane.

Incidentally, did you really see a pedestrian get fined for pulling into a bus lane?

 

[JRS]

A copper i know of pulled into the lane the other day and a policeman went over. The man in his civi's flashed his badged and let him go. 20 minutes later a pedestrian pulled in and got fined Whats the deal with that..

Pedestrian : noun
From pedes, "One who goes on foot". Somebody walking rather than using a vehicle; somebody traveling on foot.

Yes, I can see why you'd be confused if someone pulled into a bus lane on foot and got fined for it....

 

[Skiddley]

at what speed are you doing this? As fox as said in many other threads, by the time you SEE something in your fog light beem you have no time to react to it (unless your doing something silly like 20mph)

Usually 30-70mph. Don't have any problems avoiding things....if I can see them.

Just because Fox said it, doesn't make it fact.

 

[Gaygle]

Incidentally, did you really see a pedestrian get fined for pulling into a bus lane?

****ing coppers fining anyone these days!

 

[Nathan]

Caught out by the South Yorkshire police "zero tolerance winter scheme" or whatever they are calling it this year.

Intead of going straight home from work as usual, I had to do a detour to my local DIY place, as we had a radiator "pop" last night, drenching a section of my home. So I was not in the best of moods anyway, and as my journey home takes over an hour on a good day, lets just say I was irritable.

Flashing lights appeared behind me, so I pulled over to let them past. My heart sank as they pulled in behind me. He asked me if I knew what I had been stopped for, and I honestly had no idea, as fortunately, I had not been speeding. He said "Fog lights", and then the penny dropped. Bear in mind the weather can vary during my journey home. Near work it was misty, and on the dark country lanes, my front fogs were a big help. I just forgot I had them on. My Leon only has a dash light for the rear fogs. The fronts are just a little green icon near the headlight switch, hidden from view by the steering wheel.

Its no excuse, and I knew I was in the wrong. I expected a telling off, and to be sent on my way, relieved that the issue was only my fog lights. But no, I was asked to go and sit in the back of the police car, and proceeded to be lectured like a schoolboy on the dangers of fog lights. I was then asked to take a breath test. I had no problem in complying but this was now getting a bit silly. I never drink and drive, but silly things start entering your head, and I was actually feeling quite tense. As expected, the test was zero.

I was eventually let go, and told, "Let this be a warning to you", and I carried on my way.

After picking up a new rad, I went home, and I actually passed the same police car, with someone else they had stopped. They had obviously had a busy day, as his notepad was crammed full of registrations, DOB`s & addresses.

Seems at the moment, whatever you are stopped for in South Yorks, a breath test is mandatory. Which is fine by me. The issue is, they seem to be looking for the slightest thing, regardless of how small. This then gives them the excuse to pull you over and perform a test.

Sorry for the ramble, but my new rad is now fitted, I have just sat down at my PC, so I thought I would share my evening.

You committed a moving traffice offence - therefore they breathalised you Its not harsh tbh, just a good crackdown for christmas

 

[Shep_Cobain]

SNIP

I used to want to be a police officer pre 2000.

In regards to the situation my desk faces the bus stop and i saw it. The copper asked the guy to stay and he was with his family and then he flashed his badged and he was ok to go.

I saw one copper who booked my mate a while back for something petty. Anyway, im not getting at that... but i know what hes like... and he parked his new BMW police car in the bus lane... i went to get a sandwhich from the shop across the road and he got out and was texting. He then went and used the public toilets... came out on his mobile laughing saying "whats for tea".... i guess he was talking to his partner. He then got in his Police Car and drove off...

Hypocrite... what gives him the right to use that bus lane as a parking space??? a lot of them make their own rules and personally the majority of them annoy me.

Saying that though i have met some really nice officers and i have helped the police out on a few occasions by giving whitness statements and i have never broken the law nor received a fine from them.

So i dont have a grudge just lost all respect.

 

[Shep_Cobain]

I think that a drunk driver killing someone might reasonably be classified as a "big crime" - certainly to the family and friends of the victim.

Yup, I'm sure that happens - it shouldn't but it doesn't mean that people should park in the bus lane.

Incidentally, did you really see a pedestrian get fined for pulling into a bus lane?

yeh it is a big crime. But why dont they sit outside pubs in unmarked cars?

I went to the pub Saturday, and there was a man i know in there from 12:00pm - 8pm. He was quite drink and left the pub before me. He drove his van home and does it every Thursday and Saturday! - hes a prime example of a danger to society. Yet the police are out there breathalising people with fog lights on... something not right there.

Yeh i see people getting fined every day. However ive seen the Police vans parking there loads and blocking the bus.

Were even selling a house to a Policeman who i know personally and he parks his BMW Police car there when he comes in our office to speak about the sale etc.

 

[Shep_Cobain]

****ing coppers fining anyone these days!

They have one of those CCTV vans parked in Somerfields car park which is directly behind the bus stop lane. They wait there all day some days and pounce.

They get about an average £2000 in fines me thinks daily, and there just the ones i see.

 

[TheVoice]

a lot of them make their own rules and personally the majority of them annoy me.

I don't see how the majority of them could annoy you, unless you've had dealings with the majority of them. People are far too quick to criticise all police officers has a result of a bad experience with a minority of them whom don't conduct themselves properly.

Yet the police are out there breathalising people with fog lights on... something not right there.

What's not right about breathalysing someone who is using their lights incorrectly? It's frequently things like that which give away drink-drivers because they're too drunk to notice they've left their lights on (or not turned them on in the first place).

 

[Shep_Cobain]

What's not right about breathalysing someone who is using their lights incorrectly? It's frequently things like that which give away drink-drivers because they're too drunk to notice they've left their lights on (or not turned them on in the first place).

In Bpool all the young chavs put their fog lights on because they "fink it lookz mint".

Im not arguing with you, but where do people drink usually to then go driving? PUBS!

Sit outside a pub which is a busy area in an unmarked Police car and they would cut down a lot of the drink driving accidents.

Not all, as not all drink drivers drink at pubs... but it just annoys me.

Ive not had a bad experience with every cop ive dealt with but the majority of which i have abuse their power and use bully tactics to try and scare you even though you've done nothing wrong. Like ive said, ive never had a criminal record or been in trouble with the police but always get pulled over and stop checked.

They p*** me off and thats my opinion.

 

[TheVoice]

The police do do that at times though, but obviously it's not going to happen everwhere on every night. You can't have an police car outside of every pub, and even then, it's a waste of a resource to have that car sat there for any large amount of time doing nothing. There's constantly calls coming in, and they'd soon find that they get called off to something else more urgent. The simple reality is that, for the most part, the police just 'happen' across drink-drivers etc while they're driving around.

 

[Shep_Cobain]

The police do do that at times though, but obviously it's not going to happen everwhere on every night. You can't have an police car outside of every pub, and even then, it's a waste of a resource to have that car sat there for any large amount of time doing nothing. There's constantly calls coming in, and they'd soon find that they get called off to something else more urgent. The simple reality is that, for the most part, the police just 'happen' across drink-drivers etc while they're driving around.

Maybe the CSO's should do that then :s i dont know. I just feel What happened to the OP was a bit unfair. Anyway Merry xmas.

 

[stockhausen]

yeh it is a big crime. But why dont they sit outside pubs in unmarked cars?

I have absolutely no idea. It seems such an obvious strategy that I can only think that there is some reason for their not doing so ... probably the good old British sense of "fair play"

I went to the pub Saturday, and there was a man i know in there from 12:00pm - 8pm. He was quite drink and left the pub before me. He drove his van home and does it every Thursday and Saturday! - hes a prime example of a danger to society.

What are you waiting for, a reward?
Shop him!
You know it makes sense.

Yet the police are out there breathalising people with fog lights on... something not right there.

See point 1 above.

 

[NarChaDBaueR]

I got pulled over sunday morning for my passenger window still being slightly frosted, I was breathalised aswell, was really worried because i had a couple of beers the night before and even though I was sure I wouldnt of been over the limit theres always that worry. The 2 cops where pretty cool about it and I agree with the breathalising everyone, especially this time of the year.

 

[Lum]

I have a lot of sympathy for the rank and file coppers, much less sympathy for the senior management (because that's what it is these days, management) and even less for the people who control the management, ie. the government and don't even get me started on the courts.

The situation we have is an overreliance on automated enforcement (ie. cameras) for two reasons, one there simply aren't enough coppers to go around (more on that later) and the other is because it makes the stats look good.
The government basically make the police league tables based on "detections" and the number of crimes solved. If you set off a speed camera and pay your fixed penalty that's one crime solved, yay! If you murder someone and after a team of 30 officers spend 5 years investigating the crime and eventually identify you via forensic evidence then successfully extradite you from Thailand to stand trial and you are conviced... one crime solved.

Which type of crime is best for the statistics do you think? Of course senior management are under pressure from the statistics and so it continues, many rank and file officers find this state of affairs quite disgusting and choose not to stick out the job any more.

Then suppose the police do capture the drunken chav who put your car window through. He's violent and abusive but then argues in court that his human rights were violated because the officer was a bit rough when restraining him and he got a paper cut, the magistrate then throws the case out, that's assuming the CPS could be bothered to bring a prosecution in the first place. And again we have more disillusioned coppers who may quit their job.

Now not all coppers are good, there are a small number of petty jobsworths out there, most of them aren't competent enough to be put handling real crime so they get moved into traffic enforcement where they at least can't bugger things up too much. This kind often relishes the stats and desires to have good stats and this is the kind that goes after the decent and honest people, the people whose cars are correctly registered but it's the first of the month and you're parked outside the post office buying road tax so they give you a ticket for displaying an invalid tax disc, or give you a VDRS form because one of your bulbs has blown in the middle of your journey. These people are scum who have no idea what the word "discretion" means and are responsible for the souring relationship the general public has with the police.

People like you and me don't really get to interact with the good sort that much, we're generally law abiding citizens and thus are never going to get arrested by them for burglary, at best you might get a ride home from them if you're a bit drunk one night and decide to take a shortcut down the motorway.

It's just the bad ones that tar the entire force, and the rest of the justice system is pretty poor really.

tl;dr: Don't blame the police, most of them are decent, there's a few jobsworths, a crappy government and terrible courts that are the cause of all the problems.

 

[James07]

Thats unfortunate!

 

[Locky]

o well **** happens.