The planet is getting too populated, come on iran and US, launch those nukes already
I actually lol'd at that.
We need a war.
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I actually lol'd at that.
The problem with both of your own arguments is that you are giving answers without thought to implications, follow up, or even possibility.
I hope you are right with your assumtions, but I would personally not rely on blind faith whilst decision making and in fact rely on a hugh level of scrutiny into all possibilities based on what we know rather than what we assume.
Finally, I would hesitate in using this 'limited seedbank' defense as there are already numerous mechanisms which can be used to reduce selective pressure on one particular crop.
Well what else do humans have other than science? religion? hope?
But everyone is looking at this from a stupid stand point we don;t need to feed the world we've only got to feed 100 or so million Brits.
As the saying goes there's 2 hopes to achieve this - Bob Hope an no hope, and that's the problem.
right so you've said common sense then completely failed to offer a solution :/
Common sense has never been applied in attempting to solve the world's problems so i wouldn't say its failled. It will never succeed because as a species we are too selfish and short-sighted to consider the implications of our actions.
No i said you failed to offer a solution. you just said "common sense" then didn;t say what that means. for some common sense would just be kill those who are worthless, for others consolidate all your resources and take anyone elses you can etc etc.
Whats your solution? or didn;t you have one?
Yes i see your point, common sense can mean different things for different people. For me common sense should indicate that resources and space are finite and that we can't count on advances that science has not yet made to save us. Therefore common sense tells us that the simplest way to ease these pressures would be to lower population levels. So, if we care about our planet and future generations we'd have fewer children. Just my personal opinion, and something which will never happen.
This.
There is no intervention needed to reduce population.
Overcrowding will eventually cause disease, reduced fertility, and shortage of essentials for life. Wars are almost inevitable. Mass misery is almost inevitable.
Intervention is needed to avoid these things though.
I am always mindful in conversations of this nature of several things:
1) The "black death" in Europe
2) A possibly mis-remembered fact, but I think it is right: In 1705 there were about 5 million people in Britain. Now there are about 60 million. Our population has risen by a factor of 12 in 300 years. My slant on this: many countries haven't had their industrial revlolution growth spurt yet, in our country (UK) the (politicians' and economists') problem is NOT ENOUGH people being born - the population is tending to shrink - hence immigration.
People in this thread seem to be working from the idea that population densities across the world are fairly similar. They are not. Rich 1st world countries tend to be highly populated and use all the the resources. Poorer countries tend to be less "advanced" and don't get anywhere near their fair share of resources. IMHO in the future, people in the richer countries will get poorer and people in the poorer countries will get richer.
Overcrowding will eventually cause disease, reduced fertility, and shortage of essentials for life. Wars are almost inevitable. Mass misery is almost inevitable.
Intervention is needed to avoid these things though.
I am always mindful in conversations of this nature of several things:
1) The "black death" in Europe
2) A possibly mis-remembered fact, but I think it is right: In 1705 there were about 5 million people in Britain. Now there are about 60 million. Our population has risen by a factor of 12 in 300 years. My slant on this: many countries haven't had their industrial revlolution growth spurt yet, in our country (UK) the (politicians' and economists') problem is NOT ENOUGH people being born - the population is tending to shrink - hence immigration.
People in this thread seem to be working from the idea that population densities across the world are fairly similar. They are not. Rich 1st world countries tend to be highly populated and use all the the resources. Poorer countries tend to be less "advanced" and don't get anywhere near their fair share of resources. IMHO in the future, people in the richer countries will get poorer and people in the poorer countries will get richer.
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The planet is getting too populated, come on iran and US, launch those nukes already
Wars are rubbish. Disease is the only thing that's ever killed a significant proportion of the population. Natural disasters don't even come close. The Black Death killed something like half of Europe's population and a third of the UK's (or the other way around).
Nuclear war would do it though.
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while on the subject of war and nukes. aint there like a a fare few tonnes of nukes underground near london? i remember readin it and cant find it again! anyone care to fill me in? just a random question out of bordom...
I thought about this before - I think those with shares in hydroponics companies when it all takes off will be stinking rich
