Virginmedia expected to make their 50mb announcement today

yea screw having to wait until midnight to start downloads... If i want a file i want it now. :/

down with STM! ;)

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Its like adding hours on to yir download time by waiting till midnight ;)
 
Well if you want to do it that way then enjoy the STM limiter kicking in :)

What isn't clear, and was the subject of much discussion during the trials, is whether the 50Mb service is subject to STM or not. There were rumours that it wouldn't be and I can't seem to find anything definitive on the VM website.

Not that it matters, apparently I can't get it here anyway.
 
Seems im able to get it in my area, ive been on the phone to them and they said it will cost £35 a month with an initial payment of £50?

Which is the same as the 20Mb price per month, so ill just get it.
 
Err, because you do the downloading when the STM isn't in effect, like overnight. That's the whole point of the STM - to encourage you to download at off-peak times!

20Mb/s = 2.5MB/s = 8.79GB/h

Until Virgin introduces overnight STM, you can almost guarantee this will come into play in the future, after all they are all about giving with one hand and taking with the other, for ever moving the goalposts, I can see this business practice continuing for a long time sadly.
 
WHat is the best conversation to have with Virgin to try and get a better package?

At the moment i'm getting severly ripped off. I'm paying £53 for 20Mb + basic TV + basic phone line.
 
Well we'll see. Overnight STM has been rumoured for a while but I'm not sure whether it'll ever happen, partly because there's little network usage during the night so it's not needed and partly because it would mean STM pretty much all day long, which would make their high-end 20 & 50Mb packages very hard to justify.

If it does happen then I'll re-evaluate my business with them but, until then, I'm happy with them and my 20Mb service.
 
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Sorry, your home is not eligible for 50Mb broadband.
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I wonder how much more per month this is for people like us on the VIP package..? I don't know how much of the cost of it is made up by the 20mbit BB.
 
Whilst there are a few ligitimate reasons for needing high upstream bandwidth
Legitimate reason for high downstream bandwidth: all download operations take less time.
Legitimate reason for high upstream bandwidth: all upload operations take less time.
 
yea, i cant complain with virgin, they gave me an excellent deal considering the adsl broadband is limited in my area.
 
Well we'll see. Overnight STM has been rumoured for a while but I'm not sure whether it'll ever happen, partly because there's little network usage during the night so it's not needed and partly because it would mean STM pretty much all day long, which would make their high-end 20 & 50Mb packages very hard to justify.

If it does happen then I'll re-evaluate my business with them but, until then, I'm happy with them and my 20Mb service.


There will be much higher overnight network use as a direct consequence of the daytime STM restrictions naturally. Application throttling will probably be introduced around the STM for 50mbit, once they have oversubscribed the service to the point it cannot cope and blame the magic % of users downloading too much. Then the whole carousel begins @ the next speed upgrade.
 
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Wouldn't it make more sense in getting a fair service rolled out to the country first? I have to suffer with between 1-2Mb, and I'm sure there are worse off than me. All these people "oooh 20Mb is enough for me"... try my internet out!

It makes more sense to get everything on an equal par, say 10 - 20Mb, then start to increase certain areas.

Yes I'm bitter, lol as we don't get fibre where I live or cable either. :p
 
Speeds like that are pointless here, you just get capped and throttled to buggery, so whats the point.

They probably stick you on some stupid cap that your 50mb will reach in about 2 minutes, and then cap yer speed down to about 4mb or summit for the rest of the day. :p
 
Wish i was in a cable area!!!

"There will be no download caps or traffic management - where downloads are slower during peak hours - on the 50Mbps service."
 
Wish i was in a cable area!!!

"There will be no download caps or traffic management - where downloads are slower during peak hours - on the 50Mbps service."

PR rubbish, use your brain, you know for a fact they are going to shaft everyone with STM once they guarantee at least a years profits by locking enough people into a 12 month contract.
 
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yea screw having to wait until midnight to start downloads... If i want a file i want it now. :/

down with STM! ;)

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Its like adding hours on to yir download time by waiting till midnight ;)

Evening STM starts at 4pm and finishes at 9pm, so after 9pm you're free to kick off the large downloads, no need to wait until midnight.
 
Rumours are they are going to dump STM altogether and start using deep packet inspection hardware to simply throttle specific types of traffic (bittorrent etc...).
 
PR rubbish, use your brain, you know for a fact they are going to shaft everyone with STM once they guarantee at least a years profits by locking enough people into a 12 month contract.

Unless I'm mistaken, won't them bringing in STM several months down the line mean the contract has changed, meaning you can break out of it ?
 
My 20mb seems to only be 20mb 12am-8am at the moment regardless of stm which i never break.

They cant even reliably supply 20mb how on earth they'll manage 50 is anyone's guess.

The problem is the oversubscribed ubr's and contention ratios and the exact same thing will happen with 50mb.

Until there's laws introduced to stop them putting 120% loads on ubrs there will always be problems.

I haven't downloaded a thing all day have gone nowhere near the limits have waited until now and I am only getting 600k sec when I should be getting 2200.

The exact same thing will happen with 50mb it will only be 50mb between 12am and 8am.
 
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