Autistic teenager kicked baby in the face

Lots of people letting their personal feelings clouding the facts of the case here, they won't do anything legally because the CPS knows they will never get a conviction, there is a mountain of case law against them where a mentally disable person has committed a "crime" but did not get a conviction.

Tefal is right that social services will pay them a visit and work up some supervising schedules and even further treatments from specialists, but as far as legally concerned, its over.
 
Doonhamer said:
No, I am going on the only information I have which is the article posted by the op. It gives no details of further action to be taken of any sort so why would I assume it would?
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because common sense says further action will be taken. It's the whole reason social services exist.

Lets say he was your child and this happened would you just let itdrop or go about making sure it didn't happen again, and dealing with the medical and care professionals to ensure that?

Well actually from reading this thread it sounds like you;d just beet the **** out of your child as punishment then leave it at that. AS after all punishment is what changes things right? .
 
Raymond Lin said:
Tefal is right that social services will pay them a visit and work up some supervising schedules and even further treatments from specialists, but as far as legally concerned, its over.
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Asuming it was the prescribed duty of the family to take care of the autistic man and that the injuries suffered were severe, could the parents of the child sue in tort? Hypothetically.
 
Raymond Lin said:
Lots of people letting their personal feelings clouding the facts of the case here, they won't do anything legally because the CPS knows they will never get a conviction, there is a mountain of case law against them where a mentally disable person has committed a "crime" but did not get a conviction.

Tefal is right that social services will pay them a visit and work up some supervising schedules and even further treatments from specialists, but as far as legally concerned, its over.
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agreed. apologies for getting angry and letting personal feelings overcome me.
 
Crikey that's such an unfortunate situation. You can't blame the autistic guy because obviously his understanding of boundaries of acceptable behaviour are vastly different to those of a normal person, but at the same time it's such a shame for the poor little baby. :(
 
danza said:
Crikey that's such an unfortunate situation. You can't blame the autistic guy because obviously his understanding of boundaries of acceptable behaviour are vastly different to those of a normal person, but at the same time it's such a shame for the poor little baby. :(
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this is pretty much a perfect summary of my opinion.
 
Nitefly said:
Asuming it was the prescribed duty of the family to take care of the autistic man and that the injuries suffered were severe, could the parents of the child sue in tort? Hypothetically.
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They could in theory, but if the family of the autistic man has no money, or very little, it is not worth it.
 
If he is autistic he may well have found the childs crying physically painful for himself (not that it justifies it) some autistics suffer from hyperacusis which makes certain pitches of noise (usually at the higher end of the scale) painful, and so he wanted to make it stop hurting.

I dont people should be making comments on this if they dont fully understand what someone with autism is like. Not that it makes it ok, and I would be upset if my child had a broken nose but maybe be in a better grasp of conditions before posting your outrage is all.
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knip said:
If he is autistic he may well have found the childs crying physically painful for himself (not that it justifies it) some autistics suffer from hyperacusis which makes certain pitches of noise (usually at the higher end of the scale) painful, and so he wanted to make it stop hurting.

I dont people should be making comments on this if they dont fully understand what someone with autism is like. Not that it makes it ok, and I would be upset if my child had a broken nose but maybe be in a better grasp of conditions before posting your outrage is all.
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I just wish what you said would be taken on board knip :), but I'm afraid I fear you're talking to far too ignorant a crowd :(.
 
Its far away from simply being able to say he's profoundly autistic and so no prosecution, I assume(hope) they would have gone deeper into what his actual level of awareness/responsibility here is. In general to commit a crime you have to be aware what you are doing is wrong, or to be prosecuted. An autistic person in general CAN BE fully aware of what he's doing and that it is wrong, that doesn't mean this one was though. ASsuming he didn't mean any malice theres not much to punish/prosecute.

Also in general Autistic people can find certain sounds incredibly grating/unerving and can basically drive them crazy and is most likely what set him off. Prosecuting him legally is basically a dumb option anyway, by the way they've described him as profoundly autistic, I assume they mean they interviewed him, probably had a psychologist interview him and determine his level of culpability in the situation and recommend more help and or supervision to prevent it happening again.

For all we know it was parents with a profoundly upset child that ignored it for ages till the autistic kid snapped and mostly the fault of bad parenting, who knows tbh.

Getting outraged at stuff you know 1/10 the story on, and the 1/10th is enough to see nothing else should have happened, is stupid.
 
Strife212 said:
Yes - if he kicked my baby I'd ****ing smash him and I'm 100% serious.

It's a tiny baby, he could have killed it.
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He was just a human, maybe you would have killed him with a lucky shot also, what was your point? The autistic guy, assuming some facts, didn't mean any pain and didn't know what he was doing. You reacting and hurting, or accidentally killing the man in FULL control in FULL knowledge of what you were doing, I'd happily see you sent down for life.

If you can't see the difference, the autistic guy probably has a better grip on reality than you.
 
A friend of mine at school had mild autism, the common symptom is a complete lack of being able to grasp the emotions of others; he would sometimes say things that were incredibly hurtful, especially to those he didn't know well, and not realize what impact it would have. Fortunately it was a comparatively mild case so he was able to function without too much aid from other people, generally he just needed someone there to act as a sort of moral censor for him.

This is the sort of behavior i would have expected from a very autistic person, as i said my friend didn't understand other peoples emotions too well, this is just going further along the scale (true, its MUCH further, but further nonetheless). This guy cannot be blamed for his actions, however i would deem it necessary to investigate his living arrangements, who was there to take care of him at the time? Why were they not able to avert this? Is this the first time he's behaved so severely? If so, what measures are being taken to prevent it happening again?

As i say, he can't be held responsible for his actions, but he clearly needs to be cared for better.
 
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