They are already dead long before that, the terriers kill them with a single bite to the neck.
A day out ratting
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They are already dead long before that, the terriers kill them with a single bite to the neck.
The rat is dead within seconds. Once the dog has the rat in it's mouth, it shakes it vigorously, breaking the rats neck and killing it instantly.
I can't think of any better ways of killing a rat apart from shooting it. Shooting isn't always practical, especially in enclosed areas where rats usually gather. Rats should be killed as nature intended, not by poison.
Another thing. Why should rats or any other hunted animal be given a "humane" death as some of you put it? They're not human. Killing them as nature dictates is by far the best way. Artificial methods almost always have a negative impact on the surrounding environment. Being killed by a dog is a very quick death for a rat. Maybe we should ban those pesky foxes from killing and eating rats, after all it's inhumane.
I can't think of any better ways of killing a rat apart from shooting it. Shooting isn't always practical, especially in enclosed areas where rats usually gather. Rats should be killed as nature intended, not by poison.
Another thing. Why should rats or any other hunted animal be given a "humane" death as some of you put it? They're not human. Killing them as nature dictates is by far the best way. Artificial methods almost always have a negative impact on the surrounding environment. Being killed by a dog is a very quick death for a rat. Maybe we should ban those pesky foxes from killing and eating rats, after all it's inhumane.
Shooting isn't actually that good, because death tends to be from injury and slow, rather than instantaneous. The hunting report covered this and was ignored.
This just about sums it up for the tree huggers out there doesn't it?
Hiding behind your moral distaste for killing whilst passing the buck to other people to do it for you. Hypocritical.
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Thats kind of true. But its not really hypocritical to have other people to kill animals so we don't have to.
Anyway, rats aren't exactly an endangered species especially with 81 million of the things running around so killing some won't hurt. They outnumber humans in this country, so who is the more successful species then?
That's true. A rat is a difficult target too so the chances of blowing it's arse off leaving it to crawl into a hole and die a slow death are very high.
Now that I think of all the options available, I can't think of a more "humane" way to kill a rat.
Nobody in this thread is posting to make themselves look hard - what a stupid thing to say.
Dude... that's a Lakey/Russell?
Why does my Lakey/Russell look so stupid
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It looks like there's a lot more Lakey in yours.
He started off alright 
Then he went mad and hairy.
Excellent ratter though. Never really even trained him. He's had a few rabbits in his time, which is a shame as they're not really pests... but it's hard to get him to differentiate.
Then he went mad and hairy.
Excellent ratter though. Never really even trained him. He's had a few rabbits in his time, which is a shame as they're not really pests... but it's hard to get him to differentiate.
As was said this is the usual way to pick up a terrier, or indeed any small dog. It's the same way the bitch picks them up, and provided it's done from when they're small they never seem to lose the puppyish instinct to relax and go limp when you do so, which makes handling a wound up terrier with a rat in its mouth that much easier
Besides, would YOU want to pick up that dog with the "scoop and cuddle" method, considering the size of the bloomin' dirty great rat in his mouth?
Nope, it was posted because I know quite a few lads on here share my interests. That and it made a nice change from "ZOMG is my gf cheating on me??!!!11one!" and "spec me a way to breathe" threads. What's NSFW got to do with it? Not Safe For Whiners?
You've clearly never been ratting! It's immense sport. Which hole will they bolt from? Where is it? RAT!!! Then all hell breaks loose. Awesome
As for your closing comment, that just about stylises the bunny hugging movement doesn't it? "Oh noes, I perceive cruelty to fluffy animals. Burn, bury and/or otherwise abandon the human beings involved". Screw that. Humans > *.No, but it is hypocritical to one hand say its cruel to kill animals and then on the other say that your happy to consume them but glad you don't have to do the killing.
Anyway, rats aren't exactly an endangered species especially with 81 million of the things running around so killing some won't hurt. They outnumber humans in this country, so who is the more successful species then?
I totally agree - nothing wrong with killing some pests and if the dogs get enjoyment out of it thats fine too. If you happen to enjoy seeing your dog enjoy itself, doing what comes totally naturally to it then why should that make you a sicko?
Too many namby-pamby, hand-wringers in this thread for my liking - all life is precious? How long before they start bleating on about the rights of single celled animals?
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No, but it is hypocritical to one hand say its cruel to kill animals and then on the other say that your happy to consume them but glad you don't have to do the killing.
I totally agree - nothing wrong with killing some pests and if the dogs get enjoyment out of it thats fine too. If you happen to enjoy seeing your dog enjoy itself, doing what comes totally naturally to it then why should that make you a sicko?
Too many namby-pamby, hand-wringers in this thread for my liking - all life is precious? How long before they start bleating on about the rights of single celled animals?
My issue with it is more general. I.e. I'm using an electric heater atm which is causing global warming, which is melting the ice caps, which is killing polar bears.
Really, really loose connection there (as thats the same for everyone) but the point is that humans as a species are ****ing animals over indirectly whether we like it or not.
Seeing direct killing of some rats is nowhere near as bad as say eating some overfished, rare fish in a restaurant or something.
Skidder, that's a really nice stamp of terrier mate. Keep at 'em As for the strange "did you do it to look hard?" comment quoted recently (I only just saw it)...
hahahahaha The kids can kill rats, and have been able to for quite some time. There's nothing "hard" about ratting. If I'd posted a photo of, say, a 400lb wild boar with nice 4" cutters/tusks and the dog I'd caught it with, and the knife I'd personally jumped on him and stuck (stabbed) him with, you might have a point. THAT takes balls. Ratting on the other hand? Child's play
As for the strange "did you do it to look hard?" comment quoted recently (I only just saw it)... hahahahaha The kids can kill rats, and have been able to for quite some time. There's nothing "hard" about ratting. If I'd posted a photo of, say, a 400lb wild boar with nice 4" cutters/tusks and the dog I'd caught it with, and the knife I'd personally jumped on him and stuck (stabbed) him with, you might have a point. THAT takes balls. Ratting on the other hand? Child's play
Ive always understood that use of the word "humane" refers not to the animal being killed but to the killer themselves.
Using our human instincts and ethics for granting an animal a swift death with the minimum of suffering.
Not granting a hunted animal a humane death is just wrong.
iirc almost all "hunters/predators" have the instinct to kill as quickly as possible, not out of ethics but because killing slowly risks injury, the prey escaping, or something else coming along and nicking your dinner.
I agree. All reasonable efforts should be made to give the hunted animal a death which is as quick and as painless as possible.
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