Why do people think Newcastle are a small club?

[Visionary]

I've always classed them as a small club. All through the 80's like chelsea and westham they got relegated then came back up again. They had a small spell in the 90's when they had more money to spend but even then no one feared playing them. The defense was so laughable you always fancied your chances.


As someone showed you hardly had any fans going to games in the early 80's.

Hardly any fans went to football matches in the 80s, it was a bad time for attendances.

Man United v Wimbledon
Division One 02/05/1989
Attendance: 23,368

Where'd the 52,000 new fans come from?

As for a laughable defence, Newcastle conceded 2 more goals than Man U in the 95/96 season, was Man U's defence laughable?

After a turbulent period, you hired a no-nonsense manager who could have steadied the ship, but chucked him out because you weren't willing to sacrifice the good football you stopped playing well a decade before, in order to win games. You brought back an old manager with a questionable temperament, and then were surprised when he got the strop and left. You loathe a chairman who's done nothing but pump money into your club and help it continue, even after you started baying for his blood, and still does even now its apparent no-one else will buy you.

Why do you say 'you' as if the fans choose to sack Allardyce and bring in Keegan, a few fans were vocal about Allardyce in games, but no-one suggested bringing Keegan back. Anyway I think the fans who wanted Allardyce out were more concerned with not being able to beat Derby rather than the style of football.

I don't really know anyone who was surprised when Keegan left, but I don't think anyone would blame him, no-one blamed Curbishley after all.

Everything you've said is basically conjecture.

 

[uber soldat]

They havn't won anything in decades and have a relatively small following outside of Geordie Land, so how exactly are they a big club?

 

[lemonkettaz]

We are not a big club anymore.

The original poster is i'm sorry to say one of the newcastle fans that cant let go.

I think im fairly down to earth as a newcastle fan, I can see we are nothing these days, more of a joke club than anything else, I suppose you could say im too negative but I cant stand it when a lot of newcastle fans are still a bit blinded by 1996.

 

[Loki]

A load of guff, loyal deserving supporters blah blah blah blah BLAH !!!!

Passionate Derby, well we can all hurl obscenities at our nearest and dearest rivals on a Saturday afternoon, what makes Newcastle so special that they have a 'Special Derby' I can think of quite a number of other derbies where the football is betterand the fans more passionate.

Yes you have a load of fans who take their shirts off in Winter but what makes them "Special fans" above any other fan in the country

They had a couple of good seasons in the 90's during that time Keegan got rid of your reserves and nearly bankrupted the club in the process but hey if that's what makes you a "Big Club" then fine

I listen to a lot of talk sport on way to and from work and they usually have some North East correspondent on from one of the red tops. They always go to great lengths to explain nobody understands football in the North East, nobody understands the fans nobod........zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

Why are you lot so bloody special that your different than the rest of the footballing community in England. The reason why Newcastle have supposedley "underachieved" is because of the deluded support of Kegan. Not once but twice has he messed your beloved Toon up.

 

[NokkonWud]

People don't think Newcastle are a small club. People think they're not a massive/large/big club. Big difference.

Also, I question having the most passionate fans. In the past I would have said so, but the last few seasons they've not been anything special.

 

[toon_mad]

They havn't won anything in decades and have a relatively small following outside of Geordie Land, so how exactly are they a big club?

you say that but we've been in the semi finals of the uefa cup, attracted better top quality players over the years with the likes of kluivert, allbeit he never settled very well we were well established in europe.

Fifa says it all really even if it is a game, since 2000 on fifa the commentators speak correctly about us, we have always been a 4 and a 1/2 star team on there, not 4 star which is what fifa always put the likes of city, spurs, villa, everton and the majority at. Also ST James park has been a stadium on fifa for goodness knows how long, so why do fifa feel obliged to do this for newcastle when theres no goodison park, villa park, upton park, eastlands, whiteheart lane etc, and they have had generic stadiums assigned to there 4 star team for years??? Ok thats a game, but fifa have portrayed us correct in my view.

But i do agree a 100% in that we have turned ourselves into a small club in the last 7 years or so, fact been we got away with years ago because we scored more then we concede, with shearer been gone for years now, and a keeper who has saved us from relegation single handedly in the past 3 years or so, based on this you have every right to call us a small club, but we dont deserve to be, we have been starved from success since forever, the loyal fans deserve more.

As for mike ashley paying our debts off, i thank cris mort for that, no ashley. Mike ashley pretended to be a die hard newcastle fan, as soon as things got tough he ran away, i know kevin keegan is a cry baby at the best of times, always spitting his dummy out, but he is genuinely the only person, aswell as bobby roson who know what the club is all about. I would include shearer in there but he has no managerial experience. I dont blame KK for leaving this time, he was stabbed in the back and sold down the river, ever year is another cut to the throat being a toon fan, it saddens me it really does.

 

[Shamikebab]

Kluivert was hardly a top class player when you got him though was he?

 

[DSherry]

Biggest games each season for me:

Any of the top 4 playing eachother
London Derby involving Chelsea, Tottenham or Arsenal

Biggest Derby: Liverpool vs Man United or Spurs vs Arsenal

Still for me the biggest clubs are Man United, Liverpool, Arsenal and Spurs. Chelsea only recently.

Those 4 have so much history and fans from all over europe.. Especially Spurs who still play (up until a year ago) the most entertaining matches and seem to have huge followings in Scandanavia and Holland.

Think it has a lot to do with the kits aswell, Newcastle, Aston Villa, Sunderland = boring kits.

The red kits of Man United, Liverpool and Arsenal, and the all white of teams like Spurs = exciting

 

[toon_mad]

Think it has a lot to do with the kits aswell, Newcastle, Aston Villa, Sunderland = boring kits.

The red kits of Man United, Liverpool and Arsenal, and the all white of teams like Spurs = exciting

So juventus are boring are they, aston villas look like west hams are they boring too?

 

[DSherry]

I'm sorry but I can't think of a team more boring than Newcastle, Sunderland and Aston Villa (although recently Aston Villa haven't been so boring). I used to think how could anybody actually support those teams when they literally do nothing. I can understand why people support Chelsea, Man United, Liverpool, Arsenal, Spurs, Everton and therefore I don't mind watching them. What is there to watch about Newcastle? Nothing.

 

[toon_mad]

Kluivert was hardly a top class player when you got him though was he?

sorry i have to disagree, i thought he was a quality player for ajax, he couldnt of been that bad because he went from ajax, to AC milan, barcelona, us and then valencia i think

 

[Munky1080]

Dude, just be glad you don't support the Boro

 

[toon_mad]

I'm sorry but I can't think of a team more boring than Newcastle, Sunderland and Aston Villa

thats biased because you are basing that on the last 6 years or so, a team doesnt get nicknamed "the entertainers" if they played the opposite "boring" football

And as for the likes of man utd, chelsea, liverpool and arsenal, apart from about 70% of there fans, the other portion of 30% are called glory hunters.

Even in the very first championship manager we were class.

over the years practically all our players have gone to west ham and villa, when they buy from us they must get it on a bogoff offer; dyer/bowyer/scott parker/solano/milner/nzogbia/shaka hislop and so on..

 

[Stretch]

They don't win much and they don't have a lot of support outside newcastle. Simple as that really.

 

[toon_mad]

your sig says it all really

 

[Red and White]

Think it has a lot to do with the kits aswell, Newcastle, Aston Villa, Sunderland = boring kits.

The red kits of Man United, Liverpool and Arsenal, and the all white of teams like Spurs = exciting

wtf.

 

[Visionary]

A load of guff, loyal deserving supporters blah blah blah blah BLAH !!!!

Passionate Derby, well we can all hurl obscenities at our nearest and dearest rivals on a Saturday afternoon, what makes Newcastle so special that they have a 'Special Derby' I can think of quite a number of other derbies where the football is betterand the fans more passionate.

Yes you have a load of fans who take their shirts off in Winter but what makes them "Special fans" above any other fan in the country

They had a couple of good seasons in the 90's during that time Keegan got rid of your reserves and nearly bankrupted the club in the process but hey if that's what makes you a "Big Club" then fine

I listen to a lot of talk sport on way to and from work and they usually have some North East correspondent on from one of the red tops. They always go to great lengths to explain nobody understands football in the North East, nobody understands the fans nobod........zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

Why are you lot so bloody special that your different than the rest of the footballing community in England. The reason why Newcastle have supposedley "underachieved" is because of the deluded support of Kegan. Not once but twice has he messed your beloved Toon up.

Taking a team from the brink of relegation to the old Division 3 to the brink of winning the Premier League = 'messing' the club up?

Keegan saved the club from bankruptcy if anything.

But, hey, the media say Keegan is a quitter and nearly bankrupted the club, I should believe it then?

 

[uber soldat]

thats biased because you are basing that on the last 6 years or so, a team doesnt get nicknamed "the entertainers" if they played the opposite "boring" football

And as for the likes of man utd, chelsea, liverpool and arsenal, apart from about 70% of there fans, the other portion of 30% are called glory hunters.

Even in the very first championship manager we were class.

over the years practically all our players have gone to west ham and villa, when they buy from us they must get it on a bogoff offer; dyer/bowyer/scott parker/solano/milner/nzogbia/shaka hislop and so on..

CM aint real life tho, on one of them Freddy Adu was one of the best players on it at the age of 13 and this didn't reflect real life at all, so you can't base this argument on a Game

 

[toon_mad]

southerners with top hat and coats havnt got a clue mate, they think we are from ireland or norway or something

 

[Visionary]

They don't win much and they don't have a lot of support outside newcastle. Simple as that really.

If being a big club means having millions of fans from Asia, a la Man U then I don't think I'd want to be a big club. I'd have thought being known in other parts of the world would be more important. Playing in the Champions League obviously helps and there aren't many English clubs who've done that.