Quiet case for i7 build (overclocked)?

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I'm looking for a case for a fairly "standard" i7 920 build for these forums - probably aircooling with the Noctua, looking to OC in region of 3.6ghz (I know people are generally getting 3.8 - 4.0, but the extra 200-400mhz seems to suddenly shift the power requirements up considerably). Graphics will be a GTX260 (I need to go Nvidia for work requirements).

I'd like a fairly "minimalist" case style wise, and I don't much want a door (could live with one if you can turn the PC on/off without opening the door). But main premium is on something that will keep the noise levels down.

Currently tending towards the Silverstone Fortress (without window, if possible), as seems best compromise.

Other options: for the looks I'd prefer either a Lian Li PC-07F or PC-B25, but I'm worried they won't have enough stock cooling and not sure how you'd improve things from there. And I'm wondering if a P182 would be quieter, but I don't like the look or the door.

Money isn't hugely an issue, but I'd need a good argument to go for one of the £200+ behemoths.

Any thoughts? (not necessarily restricted to the cases above).
 
And I'm wondering if a P182 would be quieter, but I don't like the look or the door.
P182 is very probably the quietest case outside small cases with low performance components.
Main reasons for that are damped (that heavy multilayer construction) panels, soft HDD mountings, straightforward airflow without air&noise leaking holes everywhere... and door which blocks direct noise escape path muffling component noises before they escape to your ear.
It's rather impossible to find quiet high performance components so if actually quiet PC is your goal instead of "Can't hear car's engine noises in artillery firing range"-quiet I would recommend steering clear of magpie nests like 900/1200 which fail in about every aspect of quiet PC case.
Already that CPU with overclocking requires very probably much above quiet fan so better to be able to damp its sound by that 3-5dB possible with damped case.

My previous case was leaky front CM Stacker and there just wouldn't have been any way to make it really quiet despite of damping/sound absorption mats without specifically silent (&lower performance) components, entirely because of noise leaking open front. After nearly half year of first thinking and then studying I went for Lian Li A71... which unlike (internally lot smaller) Antec P182 just requires hours and hours of work in cutting and installing damping mats for realizing silencing potential.
Now as after-thought I should have gone for it lot earlier. Also because of light aluminum construction it's even lot (~5kg) lighter than steel cases despite of damping mats installed to nearly every surface.
That door also helps nicely to contain noise of intake fans (so it's possible to increase their speed some) and surely does same for noise of graphic card or CPU fan (if later would have noisy fan) so for PC meant to be quiet without silent components I would definitely recommend having door. Before Stacker I had Chieftec Dragon maxi-tower and already its flimsy plastic door helped surprisingly much to noise of optical drive.
In Lian Lis you can even change door's opening direction so it won't be opening to wrong to side.
Here's what its inside looked during building: (only rational use for Akasa: in places where you don't want thick mat)


In A70 without door especially intake fans would be important to keep as quiet as possible because their noise can travel directly to your ear. So in that I would keep it mandatory to at least replace intake fans with good fans like Scythe SlipStream.

Quite a lot more expensive... for acoustically lot worser HDD mounting than original A70!
Aluminum is more sensitive to vibration than steel so I would keep it as top priority to minimize conduction of vibration to case structure.
(damping of strong vibrations woudl require awfully lot of additional mass)

If I was to buy a case now I'd take a good look at this Zalman http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-025-ZA&groupid=701&catid=7&subcat=736
Its not great looking but seems to have good cooling, plenty of space and practical.
- Acoustically questionable plastic HDD trays... also thermally decoupling drives from case making HDD cooling rely to Holy Spirit because bottom leaks so much that you can be sure negative pressure cooling doesn't work well or at all.
- Exhaust fans have way too restrictive penny pinching meshes directly in front of fan blades creating more turbulence noise for less airflow.
- All those plastic parts.
Okay... some of these can be fixed but still I would prefer starting point with least to fix.

I know people are generally getting 3.8 - 4.0, but the extra 200-400mhz seems to suddenly shift the power requirements up considerably
It's not about the clock speed but about the point where you have to start overvolting. (power consumption goes to square of voltage)
For as long as you can go without overvolting power consumption rises very linearly, or actually not even that much because part of consumption consists from leakage currents which depends only from temperature and not clock speed. But as soon as you need to overvolt more than marginally power consumption starts rising fast:
30% overclocking rises power consumption only that much but if you had to rise voltage 20% for achieving that you've doubled power consumption. (10% overvolting would make total rise nearly 60%)
 
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P182 is very probably the quietest case outside small cases with low performance components. ~snip ~ For PC meant to be quiet without silent components I would definitely recommend having door.
From reading around, that was my feeling as well. And I could live with a door if I didn't have to open it often. But my guess is that having the power switch behind a door will drive me nuts.

It's all somewhat complicated by the fact that I'm concerned about noise because of my current PC, which is just about the noisiest PC I've ever experienced. It's a HP-Pavilion P4 at 3.6Ghz and the fans aren't exactly quality. I don't really know how noisy a reasonable i7 build (with 120mm fans) will be in comparison.

It's not about the clock speed but about the point where you have to start overvolting. (power consumption goes to square of voltage)

Yeah, I know. But looking at posts and reviews, it seems fairly standard that people get to 3.6 on stock or very near stock, but then the voltage climbs pretty fast for each 100Mhz further.

Thanks for the detailed post.
 
But my guess is that having the power switch behind a door will drive me nuts.
In case of PS/2 keyboard you could get around that problem. About every motherboard should have "Power on by PS/2 Keyboard" or similar setting for allowing PC to be booted using certain key/key combination.
(no such feature for USB keyboard)

Or if you use power strip with switch (very good cutting power to also peripherals) "Restore on AC power loss" would start PC immediately when PSU gets line voltage after cutting power to PC.

It's a HP-Pavilion P4 at 3.6Ghz and the fans aren't exactly quality. I don't really know how noisy a reasonable i7 build (with 120mm fans) will be in comparison.
Some of those Netbursts had absolutely crazy power consumptions and were often even idling near thermal throttling limit when using stock coolers so with often small cramped cases of brand PCs it's no wonder if that's real noisemaker.
 
if you want the best cooling then the antec 1200 is the best with fans,all fans running at stock and i can hardly hear mine,i can hear more noise from my gpu running at 60% fan speed
 
zalman z machine is THE BEST AIRCOOLING CASE THAT YOU CAN BUY

it is the best case on the planet build quality wise

if you have no plans to go watercooling then this really is the case you should buy

the fortress is also a great case

i may sound biased as i own one

but considering i build systems all day every day - i know what competition is out there for the fortress and you really cant get a better looking case that is as well built and quiet for less than 200 notes

the cosmos s is ugly - and heavier than a ford capri with a fat girl in the back
 
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zalman z machine is THE BEST AIRCOOLING CASE THAT YOU CAN BUY

it is the best case on the planet build quality wise

if you have no plans to go watercooling then this really is the case you should buy

the fortress is also a great case

i may sound biased as i own one

but considering i build systems all day every day - i know what competition is out there for the fortress and you really cant get a better looking case that is as well built and quiet for less than 200 notes

the cosmos s is ugly - and heavier than a ford capri with a fat girl in the back

i know that you know your stuff and that you build cases everyday...but how can the zalman be cooler than the antec 1200?
the zalman has a total of 3 fans...2x92mm intake and 1x 120mm outake...the antec 1200 has 3x120mm intake....2x120mm outake and a huge 200mm outake fan on the top of the case.You can also add and extra fan to cool the gpus on the side of the case.....the zalman comes with 3 stock fans,the antec1200 comes with 6.How can a case with 3 fans be cooler than a case with 6 fans?Not to mention the fans are smaller on the zalman(92mm),so to me common sense tells me the antec 1200 is a cooler case;)
 
build quality wise

it is the best case

if you use a good cpu cooler it is just as good as the 1200 imo
 
zalman z machine is THE BEST AIRCOOLING CASE THAT YOU CAN BUY

it is the best case on the planet build quality wise

if you have no plans to go watercooling then this really is the case you should buy
I think at that price I'd pay someone to do a WC build for me to be honest! It's not like I don't have the money available (it's still cheap compared with what machines cost 10 years ago), but I'm not one of these people who actually cares much about the case outside of practicalities.

[In fact, I have a convenient wardrobe near my workstation table - I'm pondering just stuffing the machine in there and then I won't see or hear it! :) ]

Do you work for OCuk? If so, do you know if they are likely to get in the non-windowed version of the Fortress? I'd rather get everything from one place if possible.
 
i do indeed

but i work in the tech dept and not purchasing

and to my knowledge there are no plans but i will ask Yewen tomorrow for you

best suggestion is to ask him directly in the new product suggestion forum?

he is a hard working guy and will get back to you quickly

[either yewen, andyocuk or slackworth will be on there most likley]
 
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OK, thanks, sounds like a plan.

P.S. This would be my first build, so this maybe a silly question, but do you recommend the Zalman fan controller? Are the "automatic" controllers that don't require you to manually change the fan speeds no good?
 
zalman z machine is THE BEST AIRCOOLING CASE THAT YOU CAN BUY
Small, PSU in hottest available position, HDD cage without clear airflow paths and half off any airflow path with direct noise escape path in front of cage...
I wonder why I have problem in believing hype?
Also bling pong fans look like excellent candidates for continuing Zalman's tradition of lousy fans in heatsinks with equally good potential to resonance of clear plastic.

the fortress is also a great case
But noise wise has horrible dense packed restrictive HDD cage for blocking airflow without lot of pressure and cage is behind huge noise leaking hole...
No wonder if in one forum FT01 user just commented about HDD seek noises being annoying.
the cosmos s is ugly
And lacks lot of silencing capability of original Cosmos.
 
Small, PSU in hottest available position, HDD cage without clear airflow paths and half off any airflow path with direct noise escape path in front of cage...
I wonder why I have problem in believing hype?
Also bling pong fans look like excellent candidates for continuing Zalman's tradition of lousy fans in heatsinks with equally good potential to resonance of clear plastic.

But noise wise has horrible dense packed restrictive HDD cage for blocking airflow without lot of pressure and cage is behind huge noise leaking hole...
No wonder if in one forum FT01 user just commented about HDD seek noises being annoying.
And lacks lot of silencing capability of original Cosmos.


im sitting next to a fortress packed full of hardware and its very quiet
you can take out hdd bays that you dont need



the zalman is the best built computer case in the world
its made of 50mm thick aluminium and would survive a neuclear fallout
ok so its design isnt exactly spectacular but its sturdier than most

im not going off reviews - im going off building and configuring pc's in these cases
 
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