Why being an Engineer means nothing in this country

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kaHn, I really do find your experience and stories fascinating, and will proably want to pick your brains about it sometime.

But I totally agree about the tough tasks that are getting the contractors/ groud teams to do what you want in the correct way. But also they will most likely have a lot of expereince, and can offer you advice as well as teach you an awful lot, helping you to become a better engineer :)
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Give me a shout if you need to. I'm just lucky I was thrown in the deep end with regards to work.

KaHn
 
vertica said:
ask any true engineer (they have to have BEng/MEng degree or equivelant) and they'll give you the same response.

It should be a protected title
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Oh shut up you smug little man. 'True engineer'. 'Should be protected title'. You lot act like you're God's gift to man. This is why hardly anyone has any sympathy for you. Maybe you should work on your elitist attitudes first, then maybe just maybe the rest of us lowly peons and maggots just might throw a little respect your way - and that's being optimistic.
 
OP is full of ####.

I've been to Uni and now have a degree in electronic engineering.

I would never class myself as anything special its only a bit of paper after all.

People that think they are special because of qualifications are tossers.

I dont personally see what the fuss is about, Uni was a piece of **** and I done it as a mature student.

I'd rather have a trade plumber or something like that.

So I wouldn't have to work with faux clever people with absolutely zero common sense.
 
KNiVES said:
I'm a carpenter and self-professed engineer and I only make tables for now. Screw you.

I especially like that you say plumbers and carpenters and the like are unskilled just because we don't know crap like Eueller theory or freaking quantum hyperspace physics or whatever the hell you were prattling on about in your smug condescending elitist OP. Whatever, jog on.

You have other, bigger issues to worry about other than the use of a label. Because that's all it is. Keep emoraging, because it's frankly, hilarious as all hell.
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KNiVES said:
Oh shut up you smug little man. 'True engineer'. 'Should be protected title'. You lot act like you're God's gift to man. This is why hardly anyone has any sympathy for you. Maybe you should work on your elitist attitudes first, then maybe just maybe the rest of us lowly peons and maggots just might throw a little respect your way - and that's being optimistic.
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Chill out. You're the one with the attitude here.

Like I said earlier in the thread, I'm not as bothered as I used to be about people misusing the term engineer. Although it still annoys me that anyone can just adopt the title without any academic study at all. It's a hard subject when done properly, and I think it does deserve recognition.

If nurses started calling themselves doctors they'd rightly be criticised for it. This is the same thing.
 
I agree with the OP, people should have to earn the right to be described as engineer. Unfortunately because it gets banded around so freely it has been completely devalued. On the continent it is a much bigger deal still, the way it should be.
 
I am an undergrad engineer at loughborough

When working on nights over summer at a supermarket I got asked.......

"Why can't you do engineering at college?" - It requires miniumum 3 years (of hard work!) at uni
"My dad used to be a service engineer, he fixed fruit machines" - No he is a technician on 13k a year HUGE DIFFERENCE!!
"Why can't you do engineering at Staffordshire uni" - Cos its **** and even if they offered the course it would not be accredited by IMECHE
"Ohh your an engineer, can you fix my car"- Engineers do not fix things
"Well my friend did a masters at Wolvohampton uni in mechanical engineering"- I bet a 2nd year engineer at a good uni knows more

Engineering is an important field, which many people do not realise. We create cars, roads, sewers, bridges, ships, computers, games consoles, mobile phones. Without engineers nothing new would be invented or created.

Unfortunately any old retard can call themselves an engineer in the UK.
Eg: heating engineer, computer engineer, Sky engineer (as in the company Sky), service engineer, boiler engineer.
 
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Delvis said:
Theres a bit more to plugging a sky box in than that I'm afraid.
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Im afraid you are incredibly ignorant concerning real engineering, if you were to spend a week in a real engineering office you would realise what it actually entails.

Turning a screwdriver and connecting things up can be taught in an hour or two - anyone can pick it up.

Applying laws of physics and manipulating equations etc is incredibly abstract and is long way off plugging in sky boxes
 
Well, this thread has proved at least one thing. Anyone who claims they have some sort of exclusive right to the word engineer also has a really bad attitude.

It's almost worth giving them the title so we can identify them, but I'm sure there's more appropriate common terms available. Let's not spoil the word engineer by turning it into a warning label...
 
Peter Diffey said:
Im afraid you are incredibly ignorant concerning real engineering, if you were to spend a week in a real engineering office you would realise what it actually entails.

Turning a screwdriver and connecting things up can be taught in an hour or two - anyone can pick it up.

Applying laws of physics and manipulating equations etc is incredibly abstract and is long way off plugging in sky boxes
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Hah, did I say anything about it being 'real' engineering, whatever the hell that is.

Hedge said:
Good lad, accept defeat at the first hurdle.

With brains like that you should be an engineer! ;)
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I had the title of engineer in my last job actually ;)

And my next one
 
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