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so whats the fastest card at present

Arcane said:
+1

Personally I'd get the above purely because of the features accessible through the profiles, it gives you options to force rendering modes, use Physx etc, I just find the nvidia drivers more flexible, which I think is important with these multi-gpu setups.
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£80-100 is a lot just to pay for stuff which will rarely be used by 90% of the population (because they don't know how to tweak it) or just to smash glass in Mirror's Edge...

However, that doesn't make it a bad thing if you want the best. Just expensive.
 
I would say, if we're not taking regards to price, the GTX295 is the fastest card except in memory limited scenarios. On the other hand, the 4870 X2 can be had for £100 less and isn't a whole lot slower. The GTX 295 does have certain advantages to it like it drawing a bit less power, though I don't suppose that's a huge consideration at that price point.
 
Final8y said:
That really does depend on the res you play at.
1920x1200 & above with full candy & trying keep above 60fps minimum even with today's games takes more than a single GPU at times.

People should be allowed to have their cake & eat it.
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Sorry, to clarify, I didn't mean multi GPUs are pointless as a 4870X2 or 295 are good cards, just the price lets the 295 down.

What I was saying is that crossfiring or SLIing dual GPU cards is pointless, as in 2x4870X2s or 2x295SLi as by the time that power is needed in any games, a single card, not single GPU, will be out that betters that old 4 GPU set up.

I don't think crossfire is at all pointless, I have 2 4850s in my current PC and they serve me very well.
 
mattup said:
:rolleyes: cough

No mention of value in ops question just 'best', hence my answer.

Matt
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Kylew bums ATI, so you cant mention NV being better or imply it or Kylew will have a go at ya. No idea what he's talking about either, as usual.
 
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Mr.B>I think that's a little harsh whatever kylews opinions are. His right to his opinion on ATI has the same validity as your opinion on Nvidia cards.

It's just a friendly piece of advice but you will be heading down the same path as helmutcheese.

I think the 295 could have been so much more and to me does not represent a marginal leap over a 4870x2 I was hoping for if that.

While the 295 seems to have the processing power I cannot understand why give it so little vram. Yet they might offer a 285 with 2gb vram. But that does not have the processing power.

I do not believe for 1 second that the 295 vram will not be a problem irrespective of games like gta4 which chews it up no matter that gfx card you have.

I just don't know why but I have never been impressed with either the 4870x2 or 295. Things like CF 4870/SLI 280 appealed to me more and even though they cost more and use more power etc, they would seem to fit my requirements better than the current dual gpu single slot offerings.

But I am looking forward to ATI next release as I would like to try ATI again given the relatively for the most part positive experience of the 4870 when I had one.
 
If i am paying £100 more for a card i expect it to hammer anything else that is out and the 295 doesn't do that yes in most cases it is faster but not in all. If your happy to pay the premium for a few fps more then the 295 is the card for you if you want the balance then the X2 is the card to get either way it comes down to personal preference.
 
rico3 said:
so is it really worth getting 2 Gainward ATI Radeon HD 4870 X2 "Rampage with the price over £850.00
is there much performance increase running x4 gpu over x2 gpu...
is crossfire x any better than crossfire..
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first off:

MultiGPU Update: Finding the True Halo with 4-way
MultiGPU Update: Does 3-way Make Sense?
MultiGPU Update: Two-GPU Options in Depth

check the performance for the 1680x1050 graphs.

and second, on a 226BW, if you get any of those you have issues... you will be fine on 1 GTX285, or maybe two if you really feel you really need it at that res (two 4870 i mean). Anything more than two and you'll be making a massive mistake.
 
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Its pointless asking on here wether to go 4870x2 or GTX295. The ATI fans will say 4870x2 and the Nvidia fans will disagree.

Its annoying cause we get this conversation every bloody day.

I'd go GTX295 btw ;)
 
I probly prefer nvidia cos i like the dirvers but i would be buying a 4870X2 if I was in ur position. The £100 increase is just not justified in the GTX 295.

Edit: hooray OCUK's forum finally lets u type "ur" :D ***
 
neologan said:
and yet you've got quad-sli?

oooh i'm feeling so argumentative today, lol. :eek:
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Why does me having Quad-Sli make me a tool? Because I can afford it? Some people work hard and do not have money worries mate.

You'll probably say that "it is such a waste of money". Well, I challenge you to find anything that can better the performance. Anyway, I'm happy gaming and not having to worry about low fps.......EVER.
 
Well it's nice to see the grown ups have come to the discussion. If you can't make a point without a personal attack then don't make a comment at all no one looks good when they launch personal attacks on people. This forum is fast becoming the last place on the net anyone should come too asking for any advice on gfx cards as they are walking slap into a warzone between both camps of fanboys.
 
MR.B said:
Kylew bums ATI, so you cant mention NV being better or imply it or Kylew will have a go at ya. No idea what he's talking about either, as usual.
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:rolleyes:

We all know the 295 is the 'fastest' card, but as has already been mentioned hundereds of times now, for the £100 difference in price you'd expect the 295 to savagely own the X2 which it does not.

And again to clarify, I don't dislike NV products, I dislike NV and their practises. They make very good cards but price them badly and treat everyone badly with their underhanded methods.

So no, I don't 'bum' ATi no. If intel released larrabee and it was competative and nicely priced I'd pick one up, but at the moment, I'm not into paying more money for an unnoticable increase in performance.

Thanks Neologan, my point exactly, multiGPU is nice, but more than 2 is overkill and doesn't give the performance increase it really should do.

I'm not bashing anyone for having 2 295s, I'm bashing having 2 dual GPU cards. As I have said many times before, by the time games come out that need the set up you have, there will be a graphics card out that is faster than your 4 GPUs and cheaper than it cost you in the first place, so it's a false economy.

For spitzoid, having quad-sli, I reckon a lot more people would think you're a tool for having it than not. It's such a blatant waste of money, now while I'm not telling you that you shouldn't have bought it, I'm expressing my opinion that it will be cheaper in the long run to have a single 295 and upgrade to the next dual GPU graphics card from the next generation.

If you got very nice scaling over 4 cards then that would be great, but usually the fourth card offers an increase in perfromance that's in the single digits. Which is why it is a waste of money.

To most people it's a waste, if it's not to you, then fair enough, but you're hardly going to agree with having spent £900 just on your graphics cards.

I reckon for that £900 you get a maximum of 150% speed increase over a 48701GB or a GTX260/280 with a cost increase of about 4-500% Which is my whole point.

Again, I'm not bashing NV, I think the same of 4870X2 crossfire.
 
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I'd also like to point out, because of how things are going in this thread (i don't want to be lumped in with this stupid argument of fanboyism), i am and never will be a fanboy of anything. A fan, sure, but not a fanboy. I have no brand loyalty, no one should.

Wouldn't it be nice to just talk about the facts, and come to common conclusions, but fanboys... it doesn't matter what is said, they ignore it and carry on. And why? Usually to defend their own purchase, which is about the most pathetic, retarded thing any rational person can do. But then, who are level-headed these days? Not many, i can tell ya, especially the younger generations.

And this little rant is directed at no one in this thread at all.

ps. agree with kyle on many points, it's the truth, it should be debated openly, but sadly it won't as per usual...
 
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