It's Luton, there be protests.

I dont see anything racist or xenophobic on the placards
While in poor taste what are they doing wrong?

It is no different from the whole mohammad (pbuh) cartoon thing, it is intentionally designed to anger someone but was deemed ok on this forum and in the media :confused:
Yet now the same members decide it is no longer ok and the government should do something about it?
 
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Whats your opinion on this?

instead of giving them are money to live in england and pay for there house and there 30,000 incest children, they should use are tax money to send every 1 of them back home where they belong.

im happy to pay for that. its a start to clean this place up from the recession and the hatred.
 
Then you think a large portion of the UKs community think like these protesters. I'd rather belive that the vast majority of our communtiy are decent, peaceful, law abiding citizens.

Also the person who was 1st quoted is a community leader, I'd like to assume he has his finger on the pulse with regard to the community he is a leader of.

I assume you mean UKs Muslim community?

Then yes, I do genuinely believe a large proportion of them, to an extent share views with the protesters. Perhaps not as extremist. It's a flaw in human nature, you tend to stick to your 'societies' beliefs... be it right or wrong.

PS... community leader? I don't even know who my 'community leader' is around here or even if we've got one!! Don't they just give themselves these positions to look important? :p
 
Don't even get me started on Anjem Choudary.

He's a Lawyer.Nuff said.

Hizb-ut-tehrir are causing problems for us big time, which ever muslim issue is in the press, these guys are behind it, cartoon demo's, the school hijab case a while back, they really ought to be banned, or at least not given the media attention, a bit like what we did with Sinn Fein years ago.

Us muslims need to stop staring at our feet and grow some balls, and evict these people from our midst, we spend too much time blaming the Yanks,Jews,Indians,AlQ for our problems, when in reality its high time we got our butt in gear and start asking questions of ourselves.
 
instead of giving them are money to live in england and pay for there house and there 30,000 incest children, they should use are tax money to send every 1 of them back home where they belong.

im happy to pay for that. its a start to clean this place up from the recession and the hatred.
Back home? Their home is (legally) here. As much as I disagree with it.
 
I dont see anything racist or xenophobic on the placards
While in poor taste what are they doing wrong?

It is no different from the whole mohammad (pbuh) cartoon thing, it is intentionally designed to anger someone but was deemed ok on this forum and in the media :confused:
Yet now the same members decide it is no longer ok and the government should do something about it?

Good post.
 
That's nice, but it's not the same. Muslim leaders should be taking the initiative, denouncing the Islamist groups and doing more to encourage integration.

To me they sound like the comments of a wise adult giving his opinion of how to deal with an annoying, spoilt child.

Whats better, getting all upset about it, or not rising to it and telling people to ignore their idocy? By reacting in an angry manner he would just be lowering himself to their pathetic levels.

We don't know that this person doesn't encourage intergration, from his comments I'd wager he does. But he was commenting of the topic of people with extremist views protesting against The Anglians homecoming parade.
 
I assume you mean UKs Muslim community?

Then yes, I do genuinely believe a large proportion of them, to an extent share views with the protesters. Perhaps not as extremist. It's a flaw in human nature, you tend to stick to your 'societies' beliefs... be it right or wrong.

PS... community leader? I don't even know who my 'community leader' is around here or even if we've got one!! Don't they just give themselves these positions to look important? :p

In my first paragragh I was referring to the whole UK community. Guess we'll have to disagree I think the majority of the UK Muslim community don't support the war, would disagree with this protest.

I'm assuming he's like a church, or leader of a youth club or runs a sports club. In which he can involve himself in his local community.
 
LOL this thread makes me laugh and weep at the same time..things definitely havent changed one single bit in here have they??.

You got posters in here with a good head on their shoulders, who come out with some excellent points then as per usual you have the little kids that come in here and act all keyboard warrior like with their silly comments lol.

As for this protest??..yes pathetic that they felt the need to do such a thing but why the media has to pay any attention to them is beyond me...i guess they need to sell papers or get more viwers etc.
 
Back home? Their home is (legally) here. As much as I disagree with it.

your right, suppose this is there country now as well as them having more rights then us, an all that....

im just glad i live in a place with only a handful (if that), no mosque's either thank fluuuuuuuuke. i know 1 called shabaz from iraq, he's quite cool though!


What, are you foreign too?

what you reading?
 
I was, of course, referring to their right to protest/ to free of speech and freedom of thought. I thought 'right to be misguided' nicely summed up that package of rights.


Go back through the thread - more than one person has implied just that.


They really do. Whilst I would not go as far as the famous Voltaire quote, every man woman and child in this country has a right to peaceful protest.


There are Muslims within the British army so already this is a case of Muslim's against ('demonising' was picked I'm sure purely for it being emotive) other Muslims. As long as the people protesting are not directly attacking the religious beliefs of another, their sexuality, sex, disability or race then I see no problem with any sort of peaceful protest. It is 'our' democratic right - why do you seek to impinge on it?


You clearly do not understand the meaning of hate speech within this country. Exercising your right to protest is not hate speech.


Who are these 'representatives' of the Muslim community? Islam does not have a formal structure similar to Christianity. The Muslim Council of Britain seems to come out very strongly against terrorism IMHO. In any case, when Harold Shipman killed did you see doctor's hold a rally pointing out that this was not part of their beliefs, when the Moors murders occured did the whole of the north march on parliament to say 'this isn't what we're really like'? Did, instead, people realise that these people killing others and themselves are isolated crazies and have no connection with the beliefs of the wider community?

Don't know about England but in Scotland you can get arrested for inciting a riot. By protesting and displaying hateful messages at an event where there are a large gathering of people sympathetic to the soliders they should have been arrested. Not for protesting but for attempting to incite a riot.

To me they were looking for a fight the police should have stopped them protesting in the interests of public safety.

This has nothing whatsoever to do with their right to protest.

Yes you have the right to protest but not whenever and where ever you like.

This was the same in N. Ireland over the orange marches.
 
What additional rights do "they" have that you don't?

Exactly id like to know what additional rights i have over a non muslim...seeing as im a muslim myself

Please inform me Rybo89 because if i have certain other rights that you wouldnt have...i need to go make a claim for them...ta very muchly:p
 
are tradition and there religion.

the fact that the english are now to scared to speak there mind incase it upsets anyone, as we would be the ones in the wrong.
 
Exactly id like to know what additional rights i have over a non muslim...seeing as im a muslim myself

Please inform me Rybo89 because if i have certain other rights that you wouldnt have...i need to go make a claim for them...ta very muchly:p

The right to be sent back! :p
 
are tradition and there religion.

I am guessing you mean "our tradition and their religion" in which case those aren't really rights. You can choose to be what ever religion you want so they don't have that right above you.

the fact that the english are now to scared to speak there mind incase it upsets anyone, as we would be the ones in the wrong.

no one seems to be overly scared to speak their mind on here...
 
are tradition and there religion.

the fact that the english are now to scared to speak there mind incase it upsets anyone, as we would be the ones in the wrong.

LOL ermm my tradition and religion doesnt give me any added benefits to what a non muslim would get:confused:.
 
The right to be sent back! :p

Hehe well if they are sending us back then its no point sending me back as i was born here;):p...but the govt could send me back to Canada as i was raised there...now if that was to happen you wouldnt hear me complaining one single bit:p
 
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