Modified cars 'could put lives at risk'

newsbeat have been doing half assed ill researched news articles for decades

The one that wound me up the most was the article they did about the fuel tax rises. The people they selected to interview, and the editiorial bias in the comments they used was unreal. I was shouting at the radio

Then there was the incident where al gore made a comment about you having to be dumb to go into iraq. newsbeat led the story about him slating americas troops, but refusing to apologise, completely missing out the reason why he refused to apologise - his comments were taken out of context and he had never said anything about americas soldiers being dumb. But newsbeat totally missed all of that out.

I honestly think its run by monkeys.
 
Dolph said:
Given the amount of cars modified badly by complete cretins, with uprated power but inadequate brakes and suspension, I'm with the AA.
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.....valid, but again, kind of a side step around the real issue isn't it - it's the cretins that are the problem. Won't really matter what they're in and if you remove one option, then they can just buy something faster from the factory anyway.

For example, you could put me in a Ford Pop with a 400BHP smallblock V8 and twee little discs on the front, drums on the rear - I wouldn't go stoving it into someone at the first opportunity, just because the power's there doesn't necessitate you having to use it on the road. That pedal is not a switch.

Just more of this approach of going down the lowest common denominator route unfortunately, much like the 50mph speed limits.

-sighs-
 
Dolph said:
Given the amount of cars modified badly by complete cretins, with uprated power but inadequate brakes and suspension, I'm with the AA.
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But that not what the AA are saying, they are almost certainly implying that all modified cars are dangerous. These people are too stupid to differentiate between a car that has been modified safely and one that hasn't so they tar everyone with the same brush.
 
Janesy B said:
But that not what the AA are saying, they are almost certainly implying that all modified cars are dangerous. These people are too stupid to differentiate between a car that has been modified safely and one that hasn't so they tar everyone with the same brush.
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to be fair, i suspect the AA made exactly this point

but **** newsbeat have totally misrepresented their statement. See my aboe post about their reputation for doing just this !
 
MrLOL said:
to be fair, i suspect the AA made exactly this point

but **** newsbeat have totally misrepresented their statement. See my aboe post about their reputation for doing just this !
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It's lazy sensationalist journalism, something that is ripe (or shall I say rotten) in this country.
 
Sweeping statement super lose. Modification is fine provided its done by someone with an ounce of knowledge. Or should we just ban it all for the stupidity of a few?
 
amigafan2003 said:
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People kill people! Not cars, trains, guns, knives etc.
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This is possibly one of the most foolish arguments I have ever heard for not regulating the possession of dangerous weapons.

"People kill people! Not cars, guns, knives etc." . . . so let's allow absolutely anyone of any age or personality to own a gun because it isn't the gun that kills . . . yeah, right.


Let's also allow teenage kids to put NOX kits in their base model Fiestas.
 
*Chuckles*

Certain forum member on here with his "tuned" diesel Rover could fall into this category after a recent complaint about his stopping power, or lack of. :o
 
Agreed - its not the modifications that are the problem (not to my taste generally, I prefer standard cars, although each to their own), its the effect the modifications seem to have on the driver.

Every 17 year old barry boy in thier Corsa (Or rover diesel :D) with a big exhaust seems to think that that a few tweaks and stick on tat means their car is a thoroughbred racer so they drive it as such. They also seem to believe driving such a hardcore supercar makes them the lext Lewis Hamilton behind the wheel.

The problem isnt the cars, or even the age of the drivers - its certain inexperienced drivers believing they are invincible all the roads. Sadly, most of these people wont stop driving like bellends until they grow out of it some years later, or its too late...
 
the whole thing is sensationalism:

Some 20% of new drivers have a crash in their first year of driving. If you then put them in a modified car that's harder to control, that's faster, that has an extra 200 brake horsepower, then accidents are much more likely to happen.
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i really want to know how to get 200bhp out of pretty any car a "new" driver could have... (new drivers that also happen to be premier league footballers excluded ;))
 
Siliconslave said:
the whole thing is sensationalism:



i really want to know how to get 200bhp out of pretty any car a "new" driver could have... (new drivers that also happen to be premier league footballers excluded ;))
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I know, I just laughed when that figure was banded around. I would like to find out how I could add 200bhp to my 1.3 Escort! I think the insurance companies doing a good enough job of keeping fast cars out of the hands of young drivers anyway.
 
Janesy B said:
I know, I just laughed when that figure was banded around. I would like to find out how I could add 200bhp to my 1.3 Escort! I think the insurance companies doing a good enough job of keeping fast cars out of the hands of young drivers anyway.
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Thats assuming they bother to insure them.... Young inunsured drivers are far more of a risk on the roads than drivers of modified cars
 
Absolute rubbish.

Heard about this on Newsbeat today.

Some dudes mother was on talking about how he died racing. Doing 70+ in a 30 zone. That's idiocy that's caused his death, not the car.

They also highlighted NOS as a key danger saying that cars are not built for it. The people who put this in their car for racing purposes or at least those with sense, upgrade the other parts of their car too to cope with the added power. If they don't, again, they are idiots.

Then of course one dude who was asked about it said, "If they want to modify their cars they should pay higher insurance or not be allowed on the road".....erm.....they do.

It's a load of ill informed ****.
 
Janesy B said:
That's why I am hoping the Police get REALLY tough on people who dodge insurance.
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I think they do, when they catch them. The problem is, unless they go past an ANPR or get pulled over for driving like a knob, they're unlikely to get found out.

Do some countries not have insurance "discs", like our tax discs?
 
stockhausen said:
This is possibly one of the most foolish arguments I have ever heard for not regulating the possession of dangerous weapons.

"People kill people! Not cars, guns, knives etc." . . . so let's allow absolutely anyone of any age or personality to own a gun because it isn't the gun that kills . . . yeah, right.
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What on earth are you are you talking about? :confused:

A car is not a weapon, it's a vehicle. Used irresponsibly it can kill, as can an HB pencil, should these require a license to own? Perhaps you'd like to ban the sea, since people can drown in it?

Did amigafan2003 actually advocate selling lethal weapons to anyone that wants them? I think not. You are reading things that don't exist.
 
skippi90 said:
Absolute rubbish.

Heard about this on Newsbeat today.

Some dudes mother was on talking about how he died racing. Doing 70+ in a 30 zone. That's idiocy that's caused his death, not the car.

They also highlighted NOS as a key danger saying that cars are not built for it. The people who put this in their car for racing purposes or at least those with sense, upgrade the other parts of their car too to cope with the added power. If they don't, again, they are idiots.

Then of course one dude who was asked about it said, "If they want to modify their cars they should pay higher insurance or not be allowed on the road".....erm.....they do.

It's a load of ill informed ****.
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Well, they do if they inform their insurers... Which most of the people this sort of thing is aimed at don't.

A simple engineers report after modifications carried out would solve the inappropriate modification problem. The idiots on the road problem would be best solved by a good road safety policy, rather than the stupid one we have at the moment.
 
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