UEFA Champions League QF L1 - 7/8 April ***Spoilers***

Well, game at the bridge is gonna be exciting if nothing else :D
Pool was crappy tonight though =( Tiredness and / or pure lazyness in the wide areas were key.
Kuyt for once seemed overall un-interested in defensive duty and spent a lot of the time playing very narrow high up the pitch leaving arby to provide width.
Its not usually a problem with Masch due to his energy, pace and tackling skills, but lucas nor alonso are quick enough to cover .. kuyt or arby needed to show more restraint tonight.
On our left flank, aurelio had a complete shocker .. worst game for a long time.

And the 2 conceded from corners, zonal marking cannot be to blame when the players dont carry it out properly :P
First goal happens, alonso should have reacted but didnt.
Second one was bad positioning, the only player between the keeper (who was between mid and front post) and far post was Arby, it was a deep corner and accident waiting to happen.

As for Essien on Gerrard, hes a great man-marker but thats about all hes good for, not to mention he plays terrible (read: Nose bleed material) when dragged to wide positions, wouldnt suprise me if we start with the usual 4-2-3-1 for a quick burst out the blocks, then boot Gerrard wide right, kuyt up top in a 4-4-2.
Think thats key to defeating chelsea when they employ these tactics. Essien if he sticks to Gerrard is dragged very much out of position, giving space for Alonso, Masch, Kuyt and Torres to exploit infront of the back 4. Leaving Essien in the mid and chelsea have a similar problem, hes just a terrible anchor man .. no Makelele for sure. And in this situation .. Chelsea's wide men are terrible at defence, Guus and Maureen said it themselves , their player choice almost forces a 4-3-3 formation due to their wide forwards being just terrible at anything but going forward, i fancy Gerrard to give A Cole a torrid time in this situation.
Gonna need all our goal threats for this game, we need to make the most of corners especially .. Agger and Hyypia must start (who cares if we concede 1? doesnt change the tie) as they are our 2 best threats from corners .. Torres, while awesome in the air, just isnt tall or strong enough agsint competent defenders. Agger and Hyypia however .. give a good ball in and 9/10 one of them will get some sort of contact on it, see Sami's goal vs Arsenal last year.. header from the edge of the box and it got thundered in like Gerrards belter vs west ham in 06 FA cup final :O
Gonna force Carra to RB to acomodate them though.
Get at them and who knows what might happen!
Istanbul? Olympiacos? 3 in 45 happens, but this time we have 90 mins :D
 
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Having missed the second half results because i went to bed, can i just say, a 3-1 home defeat, thats not a good result.

and thats a facht.
 
As for Essien on Gerrard, hes a great man-marker but thats about all hes good for, not to mention he plays terrible (read: Nose bleed material) when dragged to wide positions, wouldnt suprise me if we start with the usual 4-2-3-1 for a quick burst out the blocks, then boot Gerrard wide right, kuyt up top in a 4-4-2.
Think thats key to defeating chelsea when they employ these tactics. Essien if he sticks to Gerrard is dragged very much out of position, giving space for Alonso, Masch, Kuyt and Torres to exploit infront of the back 4. Leaving Essien in the mid and chelsea have a similar problem, hes just a terrible anchor man .. no Makelele for sure. And in this situation .. Chelsea's wide men are terrible at defence, Guus and Maureen said it themselves , their player choice almost forces a 4-3-3 formation due to their wide forwards being just terrible at anything but going forward, i fancy Gerrard to give A Cole a torrid time in this situation.


You have obviously never watched essien play football in your life :eek: Its no coincidence that Chelsea have started playing well again since he has returned. Essien was immense for chelsea the season before last when he was made to play centre back, right back and on the wing due to injuries.
 
Gerrard didnt get the time he wanted on the ball due to Essien. IMO its quite true what they say, remove Gerrard and Torres and you get Everton :D

I wouldnt quite go as far as that but he brings a lot to chelsea and does a far better job than Mikel
 
I wouldnt quite go as far as that but he brings a lot to chelsea and does a far better job than Mikel

No cokmparison

Essien is a world class player - would fit in anywhere without a doubt but Mikel is just average (and his off field antics/ attitude dont help), he may well become a great player but Im actually quite glad Utd didnt get him in the end
 
You have obviously never watched essien play football in your life :eek: Its no coincidence that Chelsea have started playing well again since he has returned. Essien was immense for chelsea the season before last when he was made to play centre back, right back and on the wing due to injuries.

Yes, he's talking utter nonsense, Essiens incredibly strong defensive and can play pretty damn well at centre back and very well at right back, he's got a lot of pace, deceptively so I think. He's also not bad when pulled out to the right, he can bomb up the wing just fine, he might not be a great crosser, but so what.

they have 3 in "proper" midfield roles and it won't be difficult for whichever slightly wider player is there to cover Gerrard should he switch to the wing, which in all likelyhood he won't.

He expects Kuyt to be pushed upfront while Gerrard drops to the wing, have they done that at all this year?

As for the if Gerrard drags essien out wide there will be space for the others, who, Lucas, Alonso and Mach, of all of them only Alonso is good going forwards and will have a single target making inteligent runs infront of him. As for Torres having more room, no he won't, he's utterly hopeless playing in the space between midfield and the defence, he can't beat his man. if he passes a man while he has posession of the ball its a rarity at best, some games he won't beat anyone, at all. Frequently he got the ball in good positions and had supposedly much slower players always get back between him and the goal. he needs a throughball beyond the defence, or a lapse when everyone ignores him in the box. Essien being "dragged out right" won't help with any of that.
He seems to completely forget that Ballack and Lampard are incredibly good at intercepting the ball because they both read the game very very well and both track back and work very hard to close the passing angles, just as much as Essien just without Essiens pace.

THink its also harsh to call Liverpool sans Gerrard and Torres .. Everton. Harsh on Everton that is, without those two, they are Bolton tbh.
 
No cokmparison

Essien is a world class player - would fit in anywhere without a doubt but Mikel is just average (and his off field antics/ attitude dont help), he may well become a great player but Im actually quite glad Utd didnt get him in the end

I agree with that. Mikel is still only 22 so has time on his side to sort himself out.
 
Gerrard didnt get the time he wanted on the ball due to Essien. IMO its quite true what they say, remove Gerrard and Torres and you get Everton :D
Remove Ronaldo and Rooney from your team and you get Man City ;)

As for Torres having more room, no he won't, he's utterly hopeless playing in the space between midfield and the defence, he can't beat his man.
Your football knowledge, LOL :D
 
As for Essien on Gerrard, hes a great man-marker but thats about all hes good for

you've got to laugh, haven't you?

So why did Chelsea totally overpower Pool? Was it the Rafa Rant, Essien totally taking out SG, Pool badly missing Mascerano's diving skills, no pen gifted by the linesman or the fact that Hiddinck is most definitely not Scholari. I think what we have seen in recent games is not a demonstration of how good Guus is but how ****ing awful LFS was - in all departments but particularly man-management and tactical.

I've just re-run the game and I swear it came out at 1-6 :D
 
Not really. If chelsea score first next week, so what? Liverpool still need 3 goals to not lose. Any liverpool fan would snap your hand off for a pen shoot to decide the tie.
Same with Arsenal. Even if they score they are only 1 goal away from drawing the tie so it's not a game changer.

No, but if Chelsea don't score, then Liverpool need 3 to win. Not sure you got my point.
 
How do the away goals stack up in this now. If Liverpool win 0-2 will they goto extra time and Chelsea win on away goals or will it just be a win to Chelsea on away goals if it is a 2 goal win to 'Pool

Same question applies to Utd drawing 2-2 with Porto
 
Chelsea would win with a 2-0 Liverpool scoreline. Effectively the score would be 6-5 Chelsea, with the whole "away goals count double".

2-2 in the United Porto game would result in extra time.
 
I only saw the 2nd half yesterday as I was playing in a football tournament, so I missed the first 2 goals.

What I did see though was an AWESOME Chelsea performance. I was loving the way we were playing although both teams did look very tired in the last 10 minutes. I felt we could have had a couple of more goals towards the end but the players were looking a bit drained.

Great result though, I know it isn't over yet but bring on Barca I say :)
 
A very suprising result and a performance from chelsea that I don't think I've seen since mourinho left. They really should have had more.

Liverpool have enough to turn it around.
 
it pains me to say but chelski deserved the win last night, we looked tired and our defense looked the worst ive seen in years. All if's and maybe's but if Monster Masch was playing i think it would have been much closer but bleh!

might have to dig out a Barcelona shirt :eek::p
 
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