A Mugging On a canal boat. The Physchololololology in the location at the rear of it.

no one even calls the police or anything? Didn't see anyone reach for a phone.

Stupid though since they'll be caught pretty easily due to the cctv and clear view of faces. You try and do that on a London bus though, police would be round pretty quickly. bus drivers can contact police fast, and I've seen police come for the most minor things just because the bus driver overrreacts.

Even though people are being macho here, whilst this isnt likely to happen in this european video, you do not want to take on a group of people bent on causing trouble in London unless there are a lot of you. Because the odds are people like that will have knives. I don;t think there was any risk of that in the OPs video though.

edit: Although the sight of grown men getting beaten by kids who at times are half a foot smaller is funny. Seriously need some confidence.
 
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v0n said:
It's easy for us to say we would intervene, but the video is taken out of the context and we don't know the full story.
- Imagine this is bus going through East Ham, and these four thugs are track suit wearing baldies with heavy lithuanian accents. Would you find situation familiar enough to jump in?
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Don't know why the fact they are lithuanian matters, but don't know the area well enough so can't say.

- Imagine this is bus going through Seven Sisters, right after Arsenal match, and the main guy of the four has "Gunners Firm 4evur" shirt on his chest and ugly knife scar across his face. Would you be confident enough to step in?
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You kidding me? These guys would have been beaten within an inch of their lives if they didnt try to run within a minute of the attack. First of all, seven sisters at around 5pm on a saturday would be busy. Secondly that bus would be full of other arsenal fans or even spurs fans. Unless the guys are armed with knives, they could get stabbed themselves. In addition the average male in that area I don't think would be afarid to intervene anywhere near to the extent of the OPs video.

I think a sustained 6 minute attack is less likely to happen in the worse parts of London unless the people are armed or aren't kids, (i.e. strong guys) like in the above video.
 
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A friend of mine got his phone stolen by two similar looking guys on a bus in Leicester. I chased them down the stairs of the bus, managed to kick one in the head as he was running down the spiral staircase and then chased them down the street. I got the phone back but it took a lot of nerve to do anything as said friend didn't chase after them and they were walking in back streets of a part of the city i didn't know.

I ended up coming away with a bruised rib and sore lip but i thought i gave adequately well enough for the situation, they dropped the phone and ended up running.

Having done boxing and some weight training now i'd be confident enough to step in at the start in the op's situation if i was feeling pretty confident they didn't have a knife, but then that's never a certainty at all nowadays. Given that they were rioting for a fair few minutes though i know i'd have tried to do something at some point rather than just standing around. The moral pressure to do so wouldn't be bearable and i wouldn't be able to tell friends or relatives of what had happened without feeling a massive amount of shame for not doing anything.
 
There is far to much fear of the knife, You have to be quite skilled to kill somebody with 1 stab & you'd be surprised just how many times you can stab a dude before he stays down.
Being aware that a knife may be pulled/used is the Exact reason you go in Hard fast & brutal. Everybody should be aware of weak spots & go directly for them & Everybody should be prepared to get stuck in.
Decent people far out weigh the scum they just have to stand up & be counted.
 
malc30 said:
There is far to much fear of the knife, You have to be quite skilled to kill somebody with 1 stab & you'd be surprised just how many times you can stab a dude before he stays down.
Being aware that a knife may be pulled/used is the Exact reason you go in Hard fast & brutal. Everybody should be aware of weak spots & go directly for them & Everybody should be prepared to get stuck in.
Decent people far out weigh the scum they just have to stand up & be counted.
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You might not die in one stab there and then but there is a serious danger of being seriously hurt. Fighting someone who is armed with a knife is not something to be done lightly.
 
daz said:
You might not die in one stab there and then but there is a serious danger of being seriously hurt. Fighting someone who is armed with a knife is not something to be done lightly.
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As one of my Best mates was stabbed to death just a few months ago, Nobody is more aware of that than me.

R.I.P. Busha My Mate.
 
I'm sorry but I think it's incredibly irresponsible for you to trivialise the danger of knives and I think this thread is heading into dangerous territory.

You do not have to be 'skilled' to kill someone with a knife, the body is full or arteries which if severed can quickly cause death. Even being stabbed in the leg or the arm has the potential to cause death.
 
I am Not trivialising it at all but I will Not be intimidated by weak scum who wield them. My mate was stabbed Multiple times in his Own car & then driven about in that car whilst he died, I wept with his father hours after the incident & stood beside his brothers whilst we layed him to rest, Still I will not bow down to chavs with knifes & nor should anybody else.
If Everybody stood up & backed each other up then the chavs would be ******.
 
Johnnytoxic said:
I learnt in Karate if a knife gets pulled, you run first.
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Good advice but me I would say Attack first Before the knife comes out, Be Brutal & put them down for long enough for you to Properly get away & not be chased down.
You get chased down & you will have to fight out of breath.
Come on guys think about it.
 
Johnnytoxic said:
I learnt in Karate if a knife gets pulled, you run first.
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Then you learnt wrong.

Depending how you run. If you turn and run away, the guy has ample time to stretch and stab you.

I keep repeating this, but if you don't believe me, put on an old white shirt, give a mate a marker pen and get him to attack you from point blank range as you run away. You'll get *******. Even though it's a controlled situation as you know he's going to attack you.

Malc is, as frequently, right here.
 
meghatronic said:
Then you learnt wrong.

Depending how you run. If you turn and run away, the guy has ample time to stretch and stab you.

I keep repeating this, but if you don't believe me, put on an old white shirt, give a mate a marker pen and get him to attack you from point blank range as you run away. You'll get *******. Even though it's a controlled situation as you know he's going to attack you.

Malc is, as frequently, right here.
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Very interesting and good idea, never heard of that method before. The best way as malc mentioned earlier, is to just look like (and be) someone you don't want to fight with. Thugs will go for the easy looking targets!
 
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