Uni Parking tickets
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That's not very kind of you.No. It is "permit holders only" (ie. staff, people that live over 4 miles from uni). Permits are free as far as i'm aware.
Because he isn't a permit holder and so had no actual right to park there.
However still feels they have no right to fine him :-/
I have never said this at all? Why are you making things up?
However, I don't think £70 is a justifiable fine because they have no right to "punish" me for parking there, but only charge me for the loss or inconvenience i have caused them - which in my eyes is pretty much none.
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Gaygle, can you not get some form of two wheeled vehicle and park it outside the library?
I have never said this at all? Why are you making things up?
However, I don't think £70 is a justifiable fine because they have no right to "punish" me for parking there, but only charge me for the loss or inconvenience i have caused them - which in my eyes is pretty much none.
You seem deluded. To be quite honest.
The uni. is trying to punish you to make you realise that you can't go around in life thinking rules like this can just be bent or broken.
Deluded? What are you talking about?! I've just explained how i'm not being delusional at all!
But the Uni has no authority to do that! They can't go around punishing people, because that is not their job! It is the job of the police and courts to punish people, not a private organisation!
As far as i'm aware the Uni can only CHARGE me for the inconvenience they have suffered.
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Morality aside again, Gayle's right with disputing whether £70 is the correct "charge" for their loss of earning (in fact nil if the car park is not used/full) and admin. Consumer Action Group parking forums is full of similar stories...
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I cannot speak with certainty as I am not familiar with your University and how your parking affected others but you must remember it may not have simply been the University you were inconveniencing.
I commute to University and have a valid permit however due to the large number of students that drive into campus (From one or two miles away) without a permit I often find it difficult to find a parking space if I'm much later than 9.30am.
The University also has to be seen to be enforcing rules. If they allowed you to blatantly get away with it you may set a precedent and before you know if you'll have many other students driving onto campus with the "Well he got away with it" attitude.
I know this hasn't contributed towards the question you posed in the opening post but in fairness that was answered almost immediately. I simply thought it might be worth pointing out how your actions affect others from a different perspective.
http://www.kent.ac.uk/estates/transport/parking/
£20 a year for a student one, but only if your eligible
£20 a year for a student one, but only if your eligible
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I love the costs at Kent, cannot believe how expensive it is elsewhere! Then again, there are always spaces available; tons so long as you can be bothered to wander over from Parkwood.
I did get a parking ticket in the first year; stopped in a disabled space for a little while to unload stuff from my car. Due to the permit, the ticket went straight on my student account which has to be paid off before I can graduate. I have no idea how they enforce the charges for anyone without a permit.
Get it right.
They have no right to fine him. Only the council do.
Contravening traffic laws is illegal.
Parking in a permit only car park is contravening a contract. The validity of being able to enforce a contract via driving into a signposted area has not been proven in law. Nor has it been proven that it is a contract. Therefore these are unenforcable invoices for parking. The charge for these has been decided that they cannot be disproportionate, however. The cut off for proportionate/disproportionate is not a fixed number and relates to the cost incurred to the owner of the car park. If the parking permit is free then the cost is likely low. If no one else was prevented from parking the cost is likely low also.
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if the signpost is not clear then you cannot enforce the "fine" - remember it is not a fine.
This is entirely a civil matter and I think is completely up to your own sense of morals. Do not park in a busy car park, do not park antisocially. If you do these two things then live with a clear conscience and with a heavier wallet.
No they're not.
On the other hand if you think they do: the uni has no right to do that. Gaygle has looked it up and knows what the law says on the matter, the court doesn't care what you think is right or wrong.
So if I think it's acceptable (by my standard), I can park on your drive at home?
This attitude that people should be able to do what they like on other people's property without consequence is pretty unpleasant to be honest.
My parents driveway has space for about 8 cars, without restricting entry/exit. they normally only have 3 cars on there.
Why should you not park in the gaps? It's not restricting their access, nor are they using the space most of the time...
If you wouldn't park on their drive, why would you park on someone else's property without permission?