Been ID for buying Alcohol at 26

Don't forget if your asked for ID, they'll also query the other people your with for ID as well. To make sure your not buying the alcahol for them.
 
Not heard of the 25 thing. We have look 21 around here all the time in supermarkets then in off licences we only get look 21 on a friday and saturday after 6pm.
 
stoofa said:
As has been shown - people over-react when asked to prove age.
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It's when staff are patronising about it that it annoys me. Most staff are good with it and a lot aren't comfortable with asking when they know you almost certainly are old enough, but every shop has a couple of jobsworths.
 
I always find it strange that you need to be 18 to buy alcohol when you can buy dihydrocodeine at 16 from the pharmacy which is much worse...
 
DominicStar said:
Shops have stupid logic sometimes too. They'll deny you alcohol for looking underage but let you pay for the rest of your shopping on credit cards which require you to be over 18. So they believe you are under 18 but don't give two hoots about the fact if you aren't you are obviously fraudulently using a card.

The latest sucking up to the tabloids fad seems to be the DIY stores demanding you prove you are 21 to buy items that aren't age restricted. Things like non-solvent adhesives, nails over 6 inches long. Single sided blades like jigsaw and circular blades, certain screwdrivers and chisels. You can buy hammers and crowbars and the actual jigsaw/circular saws themselves that also contain blades though.
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Shops don't get fined if someone who is under 18 uses a credit card. The logic makes perfect sense. They don't care if you go out and get drunk - they DO care about getting a huge fine and losing their alcohol licence.

The "over 21 but not restricted" items is to prevent misuse of dangerous articles, which is perfectly sensible and reasonable. If people didn't misuse these items, the shops wouldn't place these restrictions.
 
The best thing to do if you don't like it is to just leave all your shopping on their till and walk out while advising them you will be taking your business elsewhere.


I don't like being an ass but I now have to carry my driving licence everywhere. If I lose it and someone uses it for fraudulent activity the Spar won't help me will they?
 
starfighter said:
The best thing to do if you don't like it is to just leave all your shopping on their till and walk out while advising them you will be taking your business elsewhere.


I don't like being an ass but I now have to carry my driving licence everywhere. If I lose it and someone uses it for fraudulent activity the Spar won't help me will they?
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Is it really that hard to just keep it in your wallet beside your bank card? Some people seem to like looking for excuses so that they can be annoyed about something.
 
jamief said:
Is it really that hard to just keep it in your wallet beside your bank card? Some people seem to like looking for excuses so that they can be annoyed about something.
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The law says 18, they are the ones making up these silly rules to appease the newspapers. Perhaps they will alter their tactics once profits are reduced. Going to a different store because of their policy seems like the perfect thing to do. I just need to let them know why.
 
Im only 17 but do look older, and have been able to buy booze sonce i was 15 (Woahh, big man :P).
But i do get ID'd more now than before :(

Only got to wait till next Febuary till i can drink legally :D
 
aye so that if/when he gets pickpocketed/loses his wallet, the recipient has his full address along with his credit card details, genius....
 
that's nothing, i got id'd for buying milk today in tesco :D

the guy behind me had a bottle of tesco vodka (and nothing else) -nice lunch buddy -she thought it was mine :p
 
zytok said:
aye so that if/when he gets pickpocketed/loses his wallet, the recipient has his full address along with his credit card details, genius....
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don't start me on that. I have one of these places actually note something down off my licence. I was like wtf but couldn't be arsed arguing.
 
jamief said:
Shops don't get fined if someone who is under 18 uses a credit card. The logic makes perfect sense. They don't care if you go out and get drunk - they DO care about getting a huge fine and losing their alcohol licence.
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Shops have a responsibility to help prevent fraud too when they have reason to believe somebody is using a card which isn't their own. If they think somebody is under 18, they should not under any circumstances let them pay for goods on credit card.

The "over 21 but not restricted" items is to prevent misuse of dangerous articles, which is perfectly sensible and reasonable. If people didn't misuse these items, the shops wouldn't place these restrictions.
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It's about being SEEN to be responsible. You can buy a jigsaw in B & Q, complete with blades in the box. But you can't buy the blades seperately. Not that you could do much with these blades anyway. You can buy a screwdriver with a long thin blade , a heavy hammer, a mallet or a crow bar in Wickes or B&Q, but you can't buy a nail longer than six inches.
 
I really dont understand why people are so bothered.

Look youngish? Carry ID if you want to buy alcohol. If you dont want to carry ID, then feel free to cut your nose off to spite your face and not buy any alcohol. The penalties for the retailer are too harsh for them to risk it and many, many 17 year olds look like they are in their mid 20's.
 
delbuenno said:
Challenge 25? Pah! thats nothing:
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That can't be real.
 
DominicStar said:
Shops have a responsibility to help prevent fraud too when they have reason to believe somebody is using a card which isn't their own. If they think somebody is under 18, they should not under any circumstances let them pay for goods on credit card.
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Serving someone who is 17 and is using a credit card isn't necessarily fraud - they may be using the card with permission.

Selling alcohol to someone who is 17 is always illegal. The supermarket in this example will get fined and may lose their licence.

Its about mitigating risk. Selling alcohol is high risk when people look young. Selling someone a weekly shop when they pay by credit card and look young is very low risk.

As for the "when you get pickpocketed they have all your details" - well, I live in a fairly safe part of the world - if you don't then maybe you should consider moving? If you are regularly pickpocketed I can't imagine it is a very nice place to live. I know there is a chance I might need photographic ID at some point, so I carry it in my wallet, with my bank & credit card, work ID and car breakdown card.
 
DominicStar said:
Shops have a responsibility to help prevent fraud too when they have reason to believe somebody is using a card which isn't their own. If they think somebody is under 18, they should not under any circumstances let them pay for goods on credit card.
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I am 17 and have a credit card. Am I a fraudster?

(Hint: Credit cards in your name can be from someone else's account.)
 
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