Pirate bay court case
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Well of course that's rubbish. Mens rea is relevant in to most criminal offences.
No. The key here is TPB are condoning illegal file sharing, they are much more directly responsible for illegal downloading than Google are.
It's like comparing murder and manslaughter.
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fini, is this want you want translated?
http://translate.google.com/transla...://static.vg.no/piratebay/dom.pdf&sl=sv&tl=en
http://translate.google.com/transla...://static.vg.no/piratebay/dom.pdf&sl=sv&tl=en
Personally when I saw the result on the news I was a little surprised by the outcome considering that in essence pirate bay is no different to google (which indexes links to the torrents etc themselves) but I would also say the court got wrapped up with the media spotlight and thought they had to make them guilty of something so as not to look 'bad' in the eyes of the press.
I'm a little more concerned over the 'discussions' going on between the pm, the media companies and isp's about how to stop digital piracy which were mentioned afterwards.
Now for me personally I can't really see an easy way to stop torrents (or similar) via taking down the 'online sources' or port blocking etc as theres always going to be ways around it so whats left, packet shaping and scanning all our files, which isn't exactly good for our privacy - at the rate things are going we might as well give the government a camera pointing at our keyboard and screen etc.
I'm a little more concerned over the 'discussions' going on between the pm, the media companies and isp's about how to stop digital piracy which were mentioned afterwards.
Now for me personally I can't really see an easy way to stop torrents (or similar) via taking down the 'online sources' or port blocking etc as theres always going to be ways around it so whats left, packet shaping and scanning all our files, which isn't exactly good for our privacy - at the rate things are going we might as well give the government a camera pointing at our keyboard and screen etc.
Not quite they both link to torrents but neither host whish is exactly the same as TPB there is no difference other than TPB gives you a better GUI. If it is illegal to link to torrents then what is the difference? If you read the interviews with the guys are saying is that if they get held accountable for this then the door is wide open for prosecution of anyone who links to torrents thats google, yahoo, etc.
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Technically it is not the same, as TPB as far as I am aware host the .torrent files which themselves are effectively a link. Google do not do this, all google do is provide a link having automatically indexed sites such as TPB, mininova et al.
What TPB do not host is the copyrighted data itself, which the .torrent file points to.
No they don't thats the entire argument in this case. Nothing is held on TPB's servers all they do is provide a link to it exactly the same as google do.
M.
They probably do but don't tell anyone about it so no one is the wiser. It wouldn't suprise me if they have been doing this for years as ISP's are a law unto themselves (take the Phorm trials for example - basically testing this on users without there permission).
Whatever you do on the internet is recorded somewhere - you just have to be as secure as possible and use encrypted websites.
M.
Irrelevant
You are so far off base you should stop discussing until you get some facts in order.
The pirate bay is in control of ZERO copyrighted material. The transaction that you refer to is of a *.torrent file. There is ZERO copyrighted material here.
Don't argue about this again unless you want to look stupid rather than ignorant.
No. TPB operates outside of the law when they write a law that applies. For another example: immoral != illegal
It is not illegal until a law is passed which applies, and it was the lack of this that they were exploiting.
No. It is equivalent to taking your incredible replicating machine into the shop and making a copy of it.
It's not the same. TPB linked only torrents and most of those illegal. Google searches the entire web, this includes torrents.
TPB is much more focused on torrents and condones the illegal downloading of them.
Yep. Which would completely destroy the economy.
They are in control of the torrents that get put up onto the site. And the torrent points to the copyrighted material.
It's not the same at all as prosecuting a gun shop for murder using weapons they sold.
Digital piracy has been shown time and time again to have a positive effect on the economy.
And when the economy is destroyed it is time to do something different. You can't ban it, and in case anyone isn't sure about this - "the man" tried to ban the last piece of technology to do this: the printing press.