anyone dabbled with nitrous oxide before?

Barry Smalley said:
Your main difference is that you are wasting time and money (unless you have it already). Have you/are you doing all the interior etc? Bee sting? Exterior trim? Is it going to look like a 90 spec, or an earlier model? Is it a 5 door?
What you are doing is all well and good and has been done so many times before but you'll find that the majority of people that do it wish they had started with with the real thing in the first place. Don't think I am being an arse here, but at the end of the day it will still just be a modified driver. :)

btw, is it Montana Green? :)
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Interior = Got factory fit nice dark one, admittedly I hold my hands up I would prefer a GTI one.
Bee stick = and anything of that kind, I don't want!
exterior trim = all gone, all smooth and resprayed
small bumper 5 dr just how i like it.

I get what your saying mate, but if i started with anything in the golf range it will still end up exactly the same! In fact it would have been easier if I started with a CL to tell the truth just because I had a bit of a rust problem behind the wheel arch trims!

Yeah its gonna be a modifier driver, but actually only on paper, it will be no different to a GTI ABF conversion, well obviously except for person prefrence on some bits.

Sorry I don't wanna come across heavy its just I'm sick of all this "oh just buy a GTI" stuff, not from you, from all the little spotty 17yr olds with 1300s on the various internet sites i frequent :p

Capri green, nice metalic colour. Looks absolutely lovely. But not for much longer ;)




Just out of curiousty, how much does nos nitrous cost? Like say to refull a medium sized canister? And how big is a medium sized canister? :confused:
 
putting an abf in place of a kr is about one of the easiest conversions there is. you litterally swap the engine, everything aroudn it stays the same

from what point of view i can understand it. youre going to want to add the kjet stuff to the driver or you taking another route?
 
I'm in the middle of fitting a four port wet kit to the Pinto in my Westfield - I'll let you know how it goes.

you gained 70-80bhp with £5k and na tuning? what did you do exactly?
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I can't speak for the other guy but here's what I did to get a 67bhp increase (115 > 182) from my Pinto.

Ported and smoothed (not polished) cylinder head
3 angle valves
Unshrounded valve in combustion chamber
Bored to 2.1
Skimmed head my 1mm and fitted Adjusa head gasket to bring cr up to 11:1
High lift, low duration cam
GSXR throttle bodies
3.5bar fuel press reg (tankign injectors to 305cc/min)
Megasquirt ecu controling fuewl and spark (wasted spark)

That's essentially the performance mods - it has all the associated ARP headstud kit, rod bolts, main studs, cometic gaskets, wideband, steel flywheel, AP racing clutch etc for drivability and reliability but they don't actually have an impact on the power of the engine.

The amount of parts you throw at an NA engine isn't what makes power - it's the correct selection of parts and how they interact that's important. Also important is the attention detail when fitting them - correct valve train geometry, port matching etc.
 
An additional benefit is that if you use relatively standard 4/5mm nylon line in the engine bay for the nitrous solenoid, you get a free fire extinguisher as well - any engine bay fire will burn through the line, and provided the bottle valve is open, release the pressurised nitrous and voila, potentially put the whole fire out :)

Worth getting a decent progressive controller if you want to use it regularly though, greatly reduces the chance of that damaging initial lean period, minimises the loadings on the powertrain and also means you can run a larger shot as a result.....
 
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Lashout_UK said:
An additional benefit is that if you use relatively standard 4/5mm nylon line in the engine bay for the nitrous solenoid, you get a free fire extinguisher as well - any engine bay fire will burn through the line, and provided the bottle valve is open, release the pressurised nitrous and voila, potentially put the whole fire out :)
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One line has a gas that has 50% more oxygen than air, the other has fuel.

Neither work well as any sort of fire suppressent
 
A decent spray of nitrous (such as one from a ruptured line) extinguishes open flames. You can spray it over a flame (even as strong as an oxyacetylene torch) and it'll put it right out. I've even done it myself, was part of my dissertation :)

Fuel line should, ideally, be braided to prevent such an occurance - hence why I specifically said "for the nitrous...". There's fuel already in the engine bay so that's a bit of a moot point :D

Not saying it's something to rely on but just as an example and another thing to consider. IIRC Trevor Langfield (the 'Wizard' of nitrous) says that it in some instances it can be as effective as a carbon-dioxide extinguisher :)
 
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Lashout_UK said:
A decent spray of nitrous (such as one from a ruptured line) extinguishes open flames. You can spray it over a flame (even as strong as an oxyacetylene torch) and it'll put it right out. I've even done it myself, was part of my dissertation :)
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Maybe a flame where the only heat is the flame itself, you could put something similar out with a jet of petrol aswell.

Under bonnet fires are nothing like that.

Fuel line should, ideally, be braided to prevent such an occurance - hence why I specifically said "for the nitrous...". There's fuel already in the engine bay so that's a bit of a moot point :D
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OEM fit lines will be braided with cotton and a certain degree of fire resistance even if only for seconds, a nylon line which will be in a lot of budget installs will be gone pretty much instantly. Thats kinda what I was refering to.
 
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Kappa said:
psshhhh granny shifting....not double clutching like ya should!
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i know mr diesel says that in the film, but isn't double clutching used as a way to go around corners whilst maintaining the highest speed possible?

ie something you'd never do in a straight race?
 
allllec said:
Interior = Got factory fit nice dark one, admittedly I hold my hands up I would prefer a GTI one.
Bee stick = and anything of that kind, I don't want!
exterior trim = all gone, all smooth and resprayed
small bumper 5 dr just how i like it.

I get what your saying mate, but if i started with anything in the golf range it will still end up exactly the same! In fact it would have been easier if I started with a CL to tell the truth just because I had a bit of a rust problem behind the wheel arch trims!

Yeah its gonna be a modifier driver, but actually only on paper, it will be no different to a GTI ABF conversion, well obviously except for person prefrence on some bits.

Sorry I don't wanna come across heavy its just I'm sick of all this "oh just buy a GTI" stuff, not from you, from all the little spotty 17yr olds with 1300s on the various internet sites i frequent :p

Capri green, nice metalic colour. Looks absolutely lovely. But not for much longer ;)


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Fair enough mate - fair play to you. :)
 
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