Mac vs PC - Serious considerations...

aries2580 said:
Err what's this about?
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My Mac Pro :) Some cards and some monitors it seems have issues where by the keyboard/mouse keeps pausing every few moments.

Was first picked up by people flashing PC versions of the cards with a modified mac BIOS.

I am unfortunately one of a few who has a monitor/GPU combination that makes it do it.

Had a 2nd replacement machine already and hoping 10.5.7 fixes it otherwise I really think an upgrade is in order after having a £2k machine for 3 weeks when I can't use it for its intended purpose (its currently folding 18/7)
 
Concorde Rules said:
My Mac Pro :) Some cards and some monitors it seems have issues where by the keyboard/mouse keeps pausing every few moments.

Was first picked up by people flashing PC versions of the cards with a modified mac BIOS.

I am unfortunately one of a few who has a monitor/GPU combination that makes it do it.

Had a 2nd replacement machine already and hoping 10.5.7 fixes it otherwise I really think an upgrade is in order after having a £2k machine for 3 weeks when I can't use it for its intended purpose (its currently folding 18/7)
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Thats awful... :(
 
Concorde Rules said:
I've yet still to manage to get it going in Windows 7, and that imo is the reason why I have macs :)
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Am I right in saying that you have yet to network your Mac to a PC based network? Or that you havent figured out how to network using Windows 7? I have to admit its very easy to network in Windows 7... :D
 
I have a mac book 2GHz Core 2 Duo, 4GB Ram, 320gb HDD and i love it soooo much its NEVER crash in over 2 years ive had it (touch wood) and its still very quick plus the battery life is still just as good as the day i got it, i really can't fault it as a laptop but when it comes to desktop's i just cant find it in my self to get a mac pro i love my PC due to the flexability and HUGE choice of software and it does everything i need very well, i use mac pros in uni for maya, combustion and mud box and they crash about 4 times an hour so there not much good i can say about them.
 
PC for Desktop. Mac for Laptop.

Not going to go into it really as you can counter argue every point in this debate if you want to.
 
I just see that PC gets more bang for buck and games are released earlier and the only person I know that has a Mac is the school geek : /
 
CK61938 said:
Am I right in saying that you have yet to network your Mac to a PC based network? Or that you havent figured out how to network using Windows 7? I have to admit its very easy to network in Windows 7... :D
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PC to PC.

Its always the case it would find it and work once but after that it just would not play ball.

Not fussed really, have a USB stick for what I do in Windows :)
 
Concorde Rules said:
PC to PC.

Its always the case it would find it and work once but after that it just would not play ball.

Not fussed really, have a USB stick for what I do in Windows :)
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Ah I see. I have 5 computers and one of them uses Windows 7 as its main OS (latest RC build 7100). It found my network right from the off and works seemlessly with all the other computers I have. 3 of which run Vista and one running Windows Server 2003 (for FTP use only). :D
 
Logsi said:
I guess the main reason people use them in the industries is because they are stable, the core OS doesn't crash and time is money.
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i DARE you to state that to our mac biased design studio manager, he will rip that statement to shreds and call you a liar for your troubles lol
 
I would have to admit I have never used a mac but it seems to me that since mac have fundamentally moved away producing/researching their own technology (old school mac RISC vs pc 386, 486 x86) then PC must have it. I cannot think its just a pricing decision that brought about the change, I would had thought that the RISC technology either hit a brick wall or there was/is a fundamental flaw in how it scaled at higher speeds.
 
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I's not really a PC vs Mac agument any more, you should be considering windows vs OSX as since Apple moved to intel they use exactly the same components. A PC isn't just Windows (as much as Apple don't want you to think that).

So with that in mind you have two options (both that Apple wouldn't want you to do), build a PC with the components you want and stick two partitions on it, one with Windows and the other with OSX (have a seach of the interweb ;)), or two you can build a PC with almost idential specs to a mac pro of your choosing (other than possibly a modified MB everything else is just off the shelf and most probably available here) and stick windows and OSX on it.

Saves you huge amount of money, you get the spec you want and you can use both windows and OSX for software.

I can think of only two reasons Apple don't just open up OSX to the masses officially, money, they can make far more on overpriced hardware than selling OSX to everybody (dubious) or they don't want/can't put the effort in to develop drivers and stability for the thousands of components out there like windows, one of the reasons could be stability, as I expect if apple did do that OSX would loose its stability crown (if it ever really had it when comparing it to vista) in a big way.
 
neil_g said:
it means he calls anyone who says macs dont crash a liar?
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I said the Core OS doesn't crash. I never said that programs won't.

I'd like to see your studio design manager use windows computers for design work and see how different it is. I bet his opinion would be a lot worse of windows than the Mac.
 
Mac is seen as the "designer" thing because pretentious artsy types like to use it - not because it's any faster.

Go for the PC and make it into a hackintosh if you must (mac on a PC), there's very little to justify having a mac as anything other than a second machine/toy/because you're a nerd and like to have lots of buttons.
 
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