Had a very constructive chat with myself while sleeping last night?

magick said:
Yes it's called lucid dreaming. And don't automaticaly assume you were talking to yourself. The dream world when you'r in it is just as real as this one and has it's own conscious inhabitants.
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I'm sure you're talking about Astral Projection there.

Lucid dreaming is basically all within your own head, where Astral Projection you leave your physical body and enter the 'Astral Plane'.

Codec, talking to that person in your dream you were basically talking to your subconscious mind. I read you can ask them (yourself) things about yourself, what you really desire etc., would be interesting. Lucid Dreams are fascinating!
 
Red and White said:
you had a lucid dream and you had a conversation? not the route id have gone down
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The whole wet dream thing is lame. When you lucid dream you can do things you could never do in waking consciousness like levitate, visit other worlds, communicate with whole pantheons of entites. I've found you'll be unsuccesful and wake up if you try and fulfill lower desires.

Though occasionaly I have been nosey and had a look round other peoples houses. Usualy though when I try and do this I have problems going through the walls. Normaly you can walk through walls no problem but when you try and do it to investigate or find info out on people the walls automaticaly seem to solidify.
 
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Holliday said:
I'm sure you're talking about Astral Projection there.

Lucid dreaming is basically all within your own head, where Astral Projection you leave your physical body and enter the 'Astral Plane'.

Codec, talking to that person in your dream you were basically talking to your subconscious mind. I read you can ask them (yourself) things about yourself, what you really desire etc., would be interesting. Lucid Dreams are fascinating!
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The astral plane and the lucid dream plane are almost the same thing though there are subtle differences. It's not easy to describe what differentiates them. I'd say they're slightly different densities, the astral plane being more willed while the lucid dream plane is more passive.
 
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magick said:
The whole wet dream thing is lame. When you lucid dream you can do things you could never do in waking consciousness like levitate, visit other worlds, communicate with whole pantheons of entites. You'll be unsuccesful and wake up if you try and fulfill lower desires i've found.

Though occasionaly I have been nosey and had a look round other peoples houses. Usualy though when I try and do this I have problems going through the walls. Normaly you can walk through walls no problem but when you try and do it to investigate or find info out on people the walls automaticaly seem to solidify.
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You wake up if you become too 'excited' which is why a lot of people who start to try and lucid dream aren't successful, since when something out of the ordinary occurs they get excited about it and become too aware.

Of course you're entitled to what you believe but what if you can't move through walls of other peoples houses or find out information about them because you don't actually know that information consciously, so your mind can't to create a subconscious visualisation of it in a lucid dream?
 
Holliday said:
You wake up if you become too 'excited' which is why a lot of people who start to try and lucid dream aren't successful, since when something out of the ordinary occurs they get excited about it and become too aware.
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When you levitate you become excited and feel the butterfiles in your stomach, especialy if you levitate upwards at a very fast speed. The strength of this exictement is equaly as powerful as the other type of 'excitement'.

Holliday said:
Of course you're entitled to what you believe but what if you can't move through walls of other peoples houses or find out information about them because you don't actually know that information consciously, so your mind can't to create a subconscious visualisation of it in a lucid dream?
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That's a possibility but on serveral occasions I have found out things about people. There seems to be some sort of metaphysical law though that stops you from being able to do this nomraly especialy if your intentions aren't entirely noble.
 
well thats odd because I was talking to myself about this "lucid dreaming" and how I became self aware :/ but by what your saying being aware should have woken me up but it didnt? I've had a lot of lucid dreams in the past :/ I think Im gonna have a read up on it.
 
How did a discussion about lucid dreaming, a perfectly normal and frequent occurence, turn into a weirdo fest about out of body experiences and spying on your neighbour from the atsral plane?
 
Holliday said:
You wake up if you become too 'excited' which is why a lot of people who start to try and lucid dream aren't successful, since when something out of the ordinary occurs they get excited about it and become too aware.

Of course you're entitled to what you believe but what if you can't move through walls of other peoples houses or find out information about them because you don't actually know that information consciously, so your mind can't to create a subconscious visualisation of it in a lucid dream?
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This has happened to me a few times, when I realise I am in control of my dream, and feel it fading away as I know i'm waking up :( Cue my mind desperately trying to cling on to the dream and failing.
 
lol. yeah - but hard to say but a couple of times I've woken up and then intentionally gone back to carry on where I left off.

just checked on wikipedia and everything seems to ring true... really strange though, I mean subconciously our brain is still better than the latest nvidia card. They got a long way to go.

anyway, is research still being done on this?
 
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Cr0fty said:
This has happened to me a few times, when I realise I am in control of my dream, and feel it fading away as I know i'm waking up :( Cue my mind desperately trying to cling on to the dream and failing.
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Aye, there's different methods to try and induce them. going straight from a dream into a lucid dream is called a DILD (Dream Induced Lucid Dream). You should try and WILD (Wake Induced Lucid Dream). Basically you wake up an hour earlier than you usually would, stay awake for about 45 mins, focus on the fact you want to lucid dream, recall 'dream signs' (common occurances in your dreams which could signify you're dreaming). Then go back to sleep, since your mind still needs the REM you usually have you should go straight back into a dream state, thus making it easier to lucid dream.
 
codec said:
really strange though, I mean subconciously our brain is still better than the latest nvidia card. They got a long way to go.
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We haven't even begun to tap the true power of subconcious. I remember playing a game very similar to HL2 deathmatch with 6 other people in full 3d about 8 months before the game was even released. You can and do link up with other people in lucid dream/astral plane and you can just imagine something and it will appear instataniously and the experiences will blow away any £4k super gaming pc.
 
I read several books on lucid dreaming and became pretty advanced at it. Unfortunately I encountered two major obstacles:


1) I found out my brain hasn't got a clue.

2) I abused my lucid dreaming state by creating a Hugh Hefner Penthouse, to the point where I wasn't dreaming about other things that my brain needed to work through.

Good luck though, it's a fascinating ride.
 
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