Poll: Who will you vote for next General Election

Who will you vote for at the next general election?

  • Labour

    Votes: 43 5.7%

  • Conservatives

    Votes: 303 40.0%

  • Liberal Democrats

    Votes: 101 13.3%

  • Green Party

    Votes: 25 3.3%

  • UKIP

    Votes: 30 4.0%

  • BNP

    Votes: 77 10.2%

  • Democratic Unionist Party

    Votes: 3 0.4%

  • Scottish National Party

    Votes: 12 1.6%

  • Sinn Fein

    Votes: 2 0.3%

  • Plaid Cymru

    Votes: 8 1.1%

  • Social Democratic and Labour Party

    Votes: 1 0.1%

  • Other

    Votes: 15 2.0%

  • Abstain from voting

    Votes: 84 11.1%

  • Don't know

    Votes: 54 7.1%
  • Total voters
    758
  • Poll closed .
I don't believe for one moment you HAVE to be racist to support the BNP.

I don't believe in EVERY single one of the conservatives policies, but yet I still vote or them.

Otherwise you may as well assume everoyne who voted LABOUR supported Blairs illegal war and are war mongers.
 
wilsky said:
I don't believe for one moment you HAVE to be racist to support the BNP.

I don't believe in EVERY single one of the conservatives policies, but yet I still vote or them.

Otherwise you may as well assume everoyne who voted LABOUR supported Blairs illegal war and are war mongers.
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You don't have to be a racist to vote for the BNP, but you are in reality giving them a mandate to embark on thier racisit policies.

Conservatives would have gone to Iraq anyway, but that is a separate issue.
 
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Skidder said:
Haha on the spelling front, oops:p

But seriously, get over yourself, I was just being pithy.
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I don't think you know what pithy means, as that certainly wasn't what your "ignorant peasant" statement was.

Don't put yourself up there to be knocked down, we can go at this all day.
 
wilsky said:
Why is it interesting? Both organisations revolve around racial segregation. Or am I missing something?
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How on earth are you personally being discriminated agaisnt by the MOBO awards, what HARM is it doing to you?

The BNP's policies say you can not be British if you are not white, how on earth is that even comparable to a music award show.
 
No party is ideal for every person, and they all screw up in the end. I would vote labour because really I don't think Gordon Brown did much wrong. However, as I'm not old enough to vote that is irrelevant.
 
wilsky said:
I don't believe for one moment you HAVE to be racist to support the BNP.

I don't believe in EVERY single one of the conservatives policies, but yet I still vote or them.

Otherwise you may as well assume everoyne who voted LABOUR supported Blairs illegal war and are war mongers.
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Not believing in every policy that the party you vote for is normal but since the BNP is still largely a party with a single main issue (that of keeping Britain "pure" and repatriating anyone of colour) then by voting for them you are tacitly endorsing their view on this issue. There are plenty of other minority parties who have views that may be more suitable in their economic policies/legislative approach and are just as (un)likely to get into power - why not vote for them instead if race is not an important issue?

wilsky said:
Why is it interesting? Both organisations revolve around racial segregation. Or am I missing something?
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The MOBOs are not specifically open to people of a certain race or colour, anyone performing in the genres of music selected can win a MOBO. I'm not certain of the admission policies of the Black Police Association but if it is only open to black officers then I'm not going to try and offer any explanation for it, such things shouldn't be necessary - excluding people based on the colour of their skin is not a positive step.
 
atpbx said:
I don't think you know what pithy means, as that certainly wasn't what your "ignorant peasant" statement was.

Don't put yourself up there to be knocked down, we can go at this all day.
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Not sure why you care so much about my choice of vocabulary but I expressed myself forcefully and with brevity, which in my book is pithily. Much as I would like to go at this all day, I've got to take the dogs out.

Yes, me referring to BNP voters as ignorant peasants was critical and harsh - I stand by the ignorance element and peasants was there to add a bit of colour (which no doubt the average BNP voter would disapprove of.)
 
wilsky said:
Their economic viewpoint is completely left wing. I guess you cannot see past their obvious bigotry and you wrongly assume they are right wing.
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On the contrary, I have read their 2007 manifesto several times and I freely acknowledge that it contains some left wing elements (though you are stretching it when you claim that "their economic viewpoint is completely left wing"). However, this is not enough to make them a genuinely left wing party. Look at their policies on other issues and you will work hard to find a left wing influence.

Their core values are right wing, and they are at their heart a right wing party (some would say a far right wing party). In 1993 they campaigned under the slogan "Defend Rights for Whites". That is the complete opposite of leftist ideology.

In fact, Mr Griffin reported on the credit crunch 3 years before it happened. They are completely against American capitalism, stockbrokers and estate agents.

Basically they are left wing racists.
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No, they are a right wing group with leftist economic preferences - and not all of them are racists.

Remember, you don't have to be right wing to be racist. Take a walk down Salford, its as Labour and left wing as you can get, and believe me, you wouldn't believe how racist some of them are.
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Yes, that's true.
 
Skidder said:
I agree with that. However, when a political group is based on ideas which are fundamentally ignorant and hateful, it's important those who can see sense point it out to the stupid peasants who can't.
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Thats a fair comment of course, people should indeed have the right to say what they want and have what opinions they want, equally of course as you rightly say people should have the right to then criticise those.

I myself have very...well...lets just say that I have strong views. Strong, and for most people, "inappropriate" views. Most would find my views "wrong" or "improper". Thing is, I dont really harp on about my views, and I dont push them on anyone. I am who I am, I see no need to attempt to influence those around me into being the same. I'm extremely popular, well liked and well humoured, so I'm content in myself and those who know me are content with me. Cant really ask for more in life :)
 
Certainly not Labour. I voted for them last time under the assumption that no government can effect real change on their current length of office. I have however, grown to regret it and I've also become much wiser on issues such as the economy, etc. and more familiar with history.

Economically, Conservative will be the best bet, but socially I do worry. We're bad enough under Labour. Where I live does tend to be a safe-seat for the Conservative party though, so maybe my vote may not really be any more than tactical. I would like to see the system no longer be a two-horse race so perhaps may end up voting for the Liberal Democrats. Although, having said that since Cameron lost his son (poor sod) he does seem to have been humbled; I'd like to see what he's capable of but it is a gamble, but then again so would be any of the parties.

I think I'll just have to skim through the manifestos and see who comes nearest to my concerns of:

1. A better, empathatic and liberal society (the attitude needs working on. I worry a turn towards the economy will turn further away from the people).

2. Slightly right-wing economical policies. Keynesian-esque policies but with a firm guiding hand. Regulation of the banks and reduction of corruption, selfishness and faux-meritocratic bonus culture.

3. Reduction of bureaucratic red-tape for forces such as the police.

4. Abolition of terrorist laws.

5. Strong pro-environmental policies, but something constructive not simply taxing everything.

6. Abolition of top-up fees and complete educational overhaul; it's not fair and it breeds conceited individuals.

7. Abolition of ID Cards, etc.

8. Overhaul of the benefit system. I love the idea of the welfare state, but we're doing it very badly at present.

9. Destruction of this stupid and detrimental PC culture.

10. Stay in the EU. Actually educate the public with what goes on.

11. Public humiliation for Jacqui Smith - possibly involving some form of stocks and custard.

I'm hoping the things I find disgusting in popular culture (namely the rap-video and 'club'/ vanity culture) will disappear casually with other changes, but I doubt it as it seems to be the influence of Americanisation on ourselves rather than correlative with anything within our own society.
 
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Evangelion said:
On the contrary, I have read their 2007 manifesto several times and I freely acknowledge that it contains some left wing elements (though you are stretching it when you claim that "their economic viewpoint is completely left wing"). However, this is not enough to make them a genuinely left wing party. Look at their policies on other issues and you will work hard to find a left wing influence..
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Really?

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To that end we will restore our economy and land to British ownership. We also call for preference in the job market to be given to native Britons. We will take active steps to break up the socially, economically and politically damaging monopolies now being established by the supermarket giants.

Finally we will seek to give British workers a stake in the success and prosperity of the enterprises whose profits their labour creates by encouraging worker shareholder and co-operative schemes
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http://bnp.org.uk/policies/economy/

Very left wing, but just racist.
 
wilsky said:
Really?

http://bnp.org.uk/policies/economy/

Very left wing, but just racist.
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As I have now said at least twice before, they have left wing economic preferences, but this is not enough to make them a genuinely left wing party. Look at their policies on other issues and you will work hard to find a left wing influence.

If you need this repeated again, I can use smaller words next time. Just let me know.
 
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