Cor, poor Liverpool, only being able to spend £213m, instead of Megabucks United's £222m. I bet it was that whole nine million that made all the difference.
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It's a losing battle, no matter what proof you give them we have always spent more than them :/
Rafa has bought a lot of crap, sometimes you just have to face up to that fact.
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Considering it was a discussion about who's spent more I'm sure you're able to work that out for yourself
Has anyone suggested otherwise?
Because you have spent more
True but all managers have. He must be doing something right to have overtaken the 'invincibles', Chelsea and dramatically closed the gap on you though.
The difference is we've had to sell 6-7 players to raise money to spend so rather than pay £30m on Rooney we've had to spread that money over 5 players.
Yeah, but the reason it came up was Benitez attempting to pretend that United's big spending is what's made the difference, when it's clearly much closer than he probably realised.Considering it was a discussion about who's spent more I'm sure you're able to work that out for yourself
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Is this thread still going? It's fairly pointless now. Man u won the league, well done mancs. As Carragher put it, - if you are top of the league after 38 games then you deserve to win it. We can argue till the cows come home about money spent etc but it makes no difference to the fact that the mancs won the league. Fact of the matter is Chelsea have spent gazillions trying to win stuff and still can't manage one European cup. Money isn't the be all and end all.
What hasn't really been noted is the progress Liverpool have made this season and if it weren't for a few stupid draws the title would have been ours. The Liverpool team have proved they are easily a match for United this season and I am proud of them.
Anyway, this thread needs more cowbell...that's what I say.
What hasn't really been noted is the progress Liverpool have made this season and if it weren't for a few stupid draws the title would have been ours. The Liverpool team have proved they are easily a match for United this season and I am proud of them.
Anyway, this thread needs more cowbell...that's what I say.
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You haven't heard? That's all rubbish, we just got lucky
Ahh yes I forgot that, all the other teams were having shockers while we were fluking games.
You haven't heard? That's all rubbish, we just got lucky
I for one am not suggesting that Liverpool got lucky. Far from it. Could you have done better with a different manager ??? Bang on. The key is consistency and next year will not necasarily be out biggest challenge but yours. The weight of expectation can be a killer.
The other factor is that you can guarantee that Chelsea along with Arsenal will be stronger. You will have liddle ol siddy wanting to upset the status quo with their mega millions. Hughesy will be looking at next years fixtures and thinking if City meet any of the top 4 just before or just after a champions league game he will be targeting at least a point. Same with Villa and Everton.
Next year will be closer all around I think
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Agree. Chelsea would've been fighting for the title right up to the wire had Hiddink been in charge all season so with a decent manager and good pre season they'll definitely be in the hunt next year.
Now that Wenger has realised kids won't win him another trophy alone they'll be out to sign a few proven players so Arsenal should be right back up there as well. A bit of luck on the injury front will also help.
As for us, I think there's a lot to build upon from this season. We've finally put in a challenge and that'll do our players the world of good. Having come so close they'll be hungry to go that one step further next season. We can also look forward to a summer without Coco so hopefully no last minute transfer **** ups.
Already looking forward to next season although it'll be a long few months with nothing on this summer.
When you talk about success you don't just talk about recent trophies, fact Liverpool are the most successful English football club. Get over it.
Two players don't make a team, I've never said Gerrard isn't a good player, and I didn't mention Torres. Torres is a very good striker and was a good buy. Mash is a good defensive midfielder as is Alonso.
Why does past glory not count ? Liverpool are the most succesful English side. Manchester United are enjoying a lot of current success. In a few seasons, maybe next season they'll have passed Liverpool's trophie haul.
No, but it means they've got a lot of history, history which defines the club. Chelsea have a fairly small recent amount of success. Arsenal having being a succesful club. I'm sorry but do you not count Liverpool as a good club because they "won a few things ages ago, and finished second this season"
Wenger is still arrogant, Being arrogant doesn't make you respected, even if you act a bit of a "*****" in an interview, it doesn't make what you've achieved on the field any less so.
Benitez doesn't like losing, Fergie, Wenger, Mourinho don't like losing, and they've all taken it badly before.
I'm sorry. Gerrard dives as do the majority of footballers in the top league. I'm sorry again, is Gerrard some how the "worst" because he's English ? or plays for Liverpool ? ... All players dive, doesn't matter how or where they do it, a dive is a dive.
Manchester City have the most money and as such are the most likely to pose the biggest threat ? Everton have at least once cracked the "top four" which shows that it's not all about money.
Arsenal, if they get things right could dominate English football for years to come with the very young squad they have, Manchester United are building for the future and Liverpool will still be knocking about, as will Chelsea. You can't just dissmiss them all now. Aston Villa might improve and start to steal a top four place, Everton could.
My comment was only aimed at 1 certain individual.
As for next season, all i hope for is that we're challenging again at the end of the season. Only 1 side can win the league and small details can be the deciding factor. There will be more expectations on us but the experience of challenging for the title will be hugely benefitial also. One positive is that our key players (barring Carra) are at great ages and hopefully the bulk of our side will still be here next season and we're adding to it rather than replacing it, like we've previously had to do.
I don't think it's certain that Chelsea or Arsenal will be any stronger though. A lot of Chelsea's key players are reaching an age where they're not going to be getting any better and it's not certain that they can buy ready made replacements (which they will no doubt try). I mentioned before that imo Arsenal need a keeper, 2 cb's, a defensive midfielder and a forward they can rely on and knowing Wenger they will end up signing a couple of promising creative midfielders.
City and Villa will spend big but they did this season too and City have gone backwards and the best Villa can hope for is 2 points better than last season. Everton are already punching above their weight, they certainly don't have the money to catch the top 4 and it will be an achievement for them to stay ahead of the likes of Villa, City and Spurs.
Except worrying about Torres et al at the Confederations Cup.
Sorry, its late so i cba to answer each point individually so i'll summarise.
You do not seem to realise that I have not questioned Liverpool's success overall. You are blindly ignoring that I am talking about their form over the last 15 or so years esspecially the last 5 with benitez. Which, is a country mile behind Utd, Arsenal and, since Ranieri, Chelsea as well.
So, yes please let me qualify that Liverpool were until yesterday the most successful club in english history (because we don't want you repeating yourself again do we).
But, in the modern game (since the introduction of the Premier League) Liverpool cannot, and have not been able to, compete.
The End
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Knowing his luck he'll get injured but he should have long enough to recover, no Champions League qualifiers, and be fit for our title challenge next season.
*sighs*
No, Liverpool have only won the FA Cup twice, League Cup three times, FA Charity Shield / FA Community Shield twice, Champions League once, Uefa Cup, Uefa Super Cup twice in the past 15 years.
They have still won, more trophies then Manchester United in their history, and as such are the most succesful club England have produced. They have however not won as many "recent" trophies as Manchester United.
"The End"
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And to summarise, no manager in the Premier League has class...
Or at least, not since Jol was sacked.
Or at least, not since Jol was sacked.