Cameron launches petition for immediate general election

Like it or not, the head of a party is, to many people, the person they are "voting in" when they are actually voting for their area representative.

So how exactly does a party get voted in, if everyone is just voting for their area representative?

sorry, I haven't a clue about this. :p
 
David Cameron is such a joke. I mean as terrible as Labour are, his lot are even worse

Magnified by the fact that he himself is a total idiot. He seems to think the fact he is quite young for a party leader makes him "down with the kids" and up to date with everything
 
So how exactly does a party get voted in, if everyone is just voting for their area representative?

sorry, I haven't a clue about this. :p
It is pretty shocking that you don't know (I'm assuming your older than 16), but I know you are one in many.

You vote for your local MP. If that MP wins, he wins a seat in Parliament. The party with the most seats forms the Government.
 
David Cameron is such a joke. I mean as terrible as Labour are, his lot are even worse

Magnified by the fact that he himself is a total idiot. He seems to think the fact he is quite young for a party leader makes him "down with the kids" and up to date with everything
Apart from a number of insults, you haven't given any reason why he is worse than Labour or a joke..
 
Well Speakers Corner is more appropriate for such a post, but I think the last part of my post was one reason, although a small one, regarding the party as a whole.

It is one that particularly grates me about him however
 
It is pretty shocking that you don't know (I'm assuming your older than 16), but I know you are one in many.

You vote for your local MP. If that MP wins, he wins a seat in Parliament. The party with the most seats forms the Government.

Oh yeah, I remember now. Turns out I already knew that and had just forgot. :o

Thanks.
 
I'm just amazed that the MPs are shifting the blame on to the Speaker. Sure, he's meant to be "looking after" them, but it's not his fault that they've been claiming fraudulently.

I think it is more the case that he has fought vociferously to keep MPs expenses under wraps and used public money to do so.

He is also guilty of having his nose in the trough along with his wife for the likes of food and taxis.

Michael Martin loves the trappings and perks of being the Speaker far too much to give in without a fight but I think the list of 15 MPs calling for his head will get longer.

It is over 300 years since the last Speaker was brought down and for him to be challenged openly in the chamber is unprecedented.
 
Or are you suggesting that like the US we should have a maximum of 2 terms that any PM can be leader for?

As for the petition, it will change nothing and I'm less than convinced Mr Cameron will rule the country any better than Mr Brown has.

I'm not sure Cameron would be particularly good but Brown seems to get everything completely wrong as he has done for a long time, the hope would be the refresh with Cameron would almost mean a refresh in many positions and the hope his advisors and the people he appoints are just hugely better.

Its not just brown whose moronic, its the people he choses to advise him who are obviously equally retarded.


As for a minimum term, I do think a 2 term minimum and fixed term of 4 years isn't a terrible idea. You have up's and down's with it though, the down's are more focus'd campaigning and fighting for longer and with more money spent as you're spinning a "new" leader far more often than someone whose liked who can just constantly get re-elected. The upside is, in general when one person in the government "wins" something, someone loses, the longer someone's in power the more enemy's they make and the more feathers are ruffled, meaning you descend into a situation where no one wants to help anyone, they'd prefer to see nothing done than someone they hate get what they want.

A refresh in the leadership can, essentially I guess give a chance to renew relationships, clear the air, give new people a chance, etc, etc.

Personally I think the positives far outweigh the negatives.


As for people who pedantically insist people vote the party not the leader, I wish they'd shut the hell up, I really do. of course some people will vote for their area and really not care whose in charge of which party, but the massive, MASSIVE majority of people their vote IS effected by who they will be helping vote into power, the majority of people voted with the implicit knowledge that Blair was in charge and many of those votes would have been different with a different leader at the head of the party.

We vote both party and leader and anyone that thinks differently or intends to be pedantic and argumentative is an idiot.
 
Well Speakers Corner is more appropriate for such a post, but I think the last part of my post was one reason, although a small one, regarding the party as a whole.

It is one that particularly grates me about him however

You could actually put down some solid reasons. I know I could list hundred's of reasons why I think he'd be a better prime minister than Brown and why Labour have become the biggest political joke of all.
 
One things for sure, Cameron certainly could NOT be any worse than Brown.

Where you getting this confidence from? Hes dead of a party with no real manifesto, policies and divisions down many policy areas...

The moment the tories have to face an Europe, Euro or anti terror law based policy they will crumble like a packed of biscuits run over by a lorry.

I think come next election ill be running for a seat just ot head up some sort of wacky coaltion....
 
The moment the tories have to face an Europe, Euro or anti terror law based policy they will crumble like a packed of biscuits run over by a lorry.

At least their MPs stand up for what they believe rather than towing party line 24/7
 
A General Election is a good idea, problem is who are we going to vote for, they've all had their nose in the trough. Labour are a joke, they've managed through completely inept management to lead this country to the brink of financial disaster and now they find themselves in a moral disaster. We've found ourselves in Wars that we perpitrated on lies and where nobody actually knew what to do when we won!

Our political system is in tatters, I don't want to vote for any of them, none of them seem to have a clue. Their policies are so similar that there is no real choice anyway, we're caught between "Dumb and Dumber"

HEADRAT
 
At least their MPs stand up for what they believe rather than towing party line 24/7


What's the weather like on your planet? Of course they'll toe the party line - otherwise they never get any of the cushy ministerial jobs. This is true no matter who is in power.


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Problem is, Cameron is only calling for a general election because he's so far ahead in the polls. If things were closer then I doubt he'd be so cocksure.

I'm old enough to remember the poll tax riots, I would say that the level of public anger with the government now is about the same as it was back then - yet why no protests? Have I misjudged the public mood or has the general public just become totally apathetic?
 
Problem is, Cameron is only calling for a general election because he's so far ahead in the polls. If things were closer then I doubt he'd be so cocksure.

I'm old enough to remember the poll tax riots, I would say that the level of public anger with the government now is about the same as it was back then - yet why no protests? Have I misjudged the public mood or has the general public just become totally apathetic?


Apathetic, because that level of political bile back then was rare, but is now a common sight nowadays.
 
Problem is, Cameron is only calling for a general election because he's so far ahead in the polls. If things were closer then I doubt he'd be so cocksure.

I'm old enough to remember the poll tax riots, I would say that the level of public anger with the government now is about the same as it was back then - yet why no protests? Have I misjudged the public mood or has the general public just become totally apathetic?



Weather isn't good enough - the British usually riot in June to August.


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