John lewis rant...

Guy I'm living with went to one of those John Lewis interviews and ended up working in a distribution centre in Speke with a 5am start... :\

Odd interview system indeed.
 
Quite frankly, I can see why they didn't hire you. The lego task is all about team working, not the end product; you didn't get the point and failed the test. A system support role is still customer focused, just the customer is a John Lewis employee.

Technical knowledge can be taught, soft skills like communication and team working skills are a lot harder and are valued more.

Agreed. The method gives everyone an opportunity to show their communication and team work skills rather than being asked questions, which quite frankly, you can lie.

You can have 4 decent technicians in a team but if one can't work within that team then he/she becomes a liability and the team breaks down. I've seen this happen and only recently too.

John Lewis is a great company to work for, they are not Tescos though. A missed opportunity I think.

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Sorry to hear that. The worst thing you can do is let it get you down. There is always something for you if you want it bad enough.

On a side note, please don’t use dyslexia as an excuse for laziness.. I have had dyslexia all my life, even as an adult but I always try my best and carefully read through what I type. Doesn't always works but I accept what and who I am but I never use it as an excuse..
 
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Of course your friend isn't biased in any way ;)

Ha ha, maybe a little. But even so, I heard of his idea to make a radio advert. He used a local community station that has a totally different audience to the companies target consumer. Waste of time and money in my eyes. But anyway....

I came to the conclusion a long time ago that you need to start at the bottom in the civl service/councils or not at all.

Quoted for the truth, I'm applying for a low level job in the same place as when this guy moves on (he's had 5 jobs in the council in 8 months) I want to be ready and waiting :)
 
Agreed. The method gives everyone an opportunity to show their communication and team work skills rather than being asked questions, which quite frankly, you can lie.

You can have 4 decent technicians in a team but if one can't work within that team then he/she becomes a liability and the team breaks down. I've seen this happen and only recently too.

John Lewis is a great company to work for, they are not Tescos. A missed opportunity I think.
my feedback say's:
Apperatly i lacked charcter projection???:confused:
What the hell is charcter projection?
 
my feedback say's:
Apperatly i lacked charcter projection???:confused:
What the hell is charcter projection?

Means you were shy and didn't work well in the team, you had a chip on your shoulder about being in a group with other people who weren't as technical as you and it showed.

KaHn
 
Means you were shy and didn't work well in the team, you had a chip on your shoulder about being in a group with other people who weren't as technical as you and it showed.

KaHn

So hang on if i choose my word, and don't spurt out constant flow of crap that makes me a bad person to employ?
maybe i should just stick to **** jobs, and work myself nto a early grave.
 
Means you were shy and didn't work well in the team, you had a chip on your shoulder about being in a group with other people who weren't as technical as you and it showed.

KaHn


yup.. Khan has it one.. Have a lolly!

edit - and your post above just highlighted Kahn's point :D
 
So hang on if i choose my word, and don't spurt out constant flow of crap that makes me a bad person to employ?
maybe i should just stick to **** jobs, and work myself nto a early grave.

No it means that employment is more than someone who can get the job done, something which you aren't getting, it is normally why you find managers are not technically minded but are very good people persons.

KaHn
 
No it means that employment is more than someone who can get the job done, something which you aren't getting, it is normally why you find managers are not technically minded but are very good people persons.

KaHn

So your saying i need to improve my people skill's, Any surgestion's on who i go about acomplishing that?
 
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So your saying i need to improve my people skill's, Any surgestion's on who i go about acomplishing that?

You can only change the way you are if you actually see that change needs to be made in the first place. The first thing you need to do is listen to what people say and collectively take on their opinions with disregarding them or disrespecting your team member. Nobody knows everything and nobody likes a person who thinks they do. To team work is about pulling in resources making sure that a job gets done and the experience is passed around. That’s really all I can say because of not a hypnotherapist or someone who can change how the mind set works.

You seem very much in a rush about everything.. This comes over in your text.. Maybe it's time to slow down, take things slowly and look from the outside for a change. Take care and pride in everything you do. Employers look for that. As I said, none of us are perfect but it's best knowing you put the effort in - always
 
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I went to a ASDA interview about a month back and I had to build marshmellow building!
I got to the final part but all the X woolworths people got the jobs :(

Marshmellow building ffs come on. Were do they get these ideas from?
 
Means you were shy and didn't work well in the team, you had a chip on your shoulder about being in a group with other people who weren't as technical as you and it showed.

KaHn

Since when is 'projection of character' a high requirement for a non customer facing support role?

It doesn't exactly sound like he had a chip on his shoulder either, and more knowledge than someone else shouldn't be punished should it.

Sounds like a massive failure to pick the right candidate, especially if someone got chosen that didn't even know or understand the role she applied for.
 
Christ, so many buzz-words and assumptions in this thread.

If was told to build a lego house (for that role) I would have told them to give me a proper interview, or walk out.
 
No it means that employment is more than someone who can get the job done, something which you aren't getting, it is normally why you find managers are not technically minded but are very good people persons.

KaHn
Indeed. Then people wonder why no matter how good their work is, the 'brown-nosers' get ahead. Normally it's because the 'brown-nosers' are what most people would call, friendly and personable people.

The problem OP has is that you are applying for jobs at the bottom rung, 'IT support' these days is virtually unskilled labour so they are looking for more than just the ability to read a flowchart but things like drive to succeed, willingness to take on responsibility, work successfully in a team and suchlike - hence the various exercises.
 
I went for a job where they had the Lego building exercise.

The objective was to build a bridge with the least possible bricks (that a team mate could climb under).

First question I asked "what's the record for the least number of bricks?" ;)

Got through but turned the job down.. this was Argos, circa 2001. Not the end of the world really, is it..
 
The problem OP has is that you are applying for jobs at the bottom rung, 'IT support' these days is virtually unskilled labour so they are looking for more than just the ability to read a flowchart but things like drive to succeed, willingness to take on responsibility, work successfully in a team and suchlike - hence the various exercises.

I would apply for other job's, but all the decent work seems to have dried up in south wales, im checking cardiffjobs totaljobs, got my c.v on monster. But their is absaloute f all, the few jobs that are availble at a higher level people are asking fro stupid amount sof experiance.
I got turned down for a office junior role because i didnt have enoth office experiance, which i found hilarious when i tried to figure out where im supposed to get office experiance from.
Also the fact people are taking the **** in the engineering sector unless you've got a degree in the subject. The last two plant tech. jobs i saw were both barely over the miniumum wage, and were a good 45 hour per week.
The only place that is giving out good wages in south wales for engineering and is hiring is dow corning, but i doubt ill get a look in with them.Mainly because i only have a btec in engineering
 
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