John lewis rant...

[scorza]

My opinion about recruitment techniques is that it always boils down to two simple questions:

1. Is this person capable of doing the job?

2. Will this person fit in with the culture of our organisation? (or more cynically: does the interviewer like the candidate).

You passed the first but failed the second (which is the more difficult for me too). All you can do is work on your image, smile, stand up straight, don't let other candidates dominate you - even then you might be judged as wrong for the job though

 

[dowie]

The first "assesment" was to build a sodding lego house! I myself cannot see any relative simeralities to building a lego house and keeping a pc network running, but i may have missed a part in advance pc maintance...
So i built the sodding house as a exact copy of the model they had from memory, and shared the idea's on how to construct it with the rest of the group.

???????????

So you were competing for a job and decided to help out your competition (who might well have otherwise failed spectacularly) and now you're annoyed that some of them got chosen ahead of you. I don't think you did yourself many favours there.

 

[chumpit]

???????????

So you were competing for a job and decided to help out your competition (who might well have otherwise failed spectacularly) and now you're annoyed that some of them got chosen ahead of you. I don't think you did yourself many favours there.

worked as a group to each reproduce the same model. sorry if i worded it badly.

 

[Tefal]

to someone else as they made an untrue assumption about me,

what did they assume?

 

[C64]

This is unreal, just do the interviews ! what has happened to this country with all this group hugging team exercise nonsense.

Everyone thinks it's the apprentice ? this is not for a 6 figure income it's an average paid job.Honestly if I turned up for a job interview and they wanted to do all that I would simply walk out and not waste my time.

I wouldn't want to work with or for such people.

 

[rypt]

This is unreal, just do the interviews ! what has happened to this country with all this group hugging team exercise nonsense.

This group based stuff was thought up by Americans afaik; might be because they fail at interviews though, dunno.

 

[C64]

Can you do the job ? yes
Can you fit in ? yes
Do you smell ? no

Welcome aboard.

 

[Grimley]

I tried to get a job with Waitrose many years ago (as Warehouse Manager) Over four years experience with Sainsbury's in the same job counted for nothing. I tried 3 or 4 times for various vacancies after that for the same firm but gave up in the end.

 

[dowie]

worked as a group to each reproduce the same model. sorry if i worded it badly.

ah fair enough

I wouldn't worry about it too much, its probably no reflection on your ability to actually do the job but maybe more to do with whether they think you'll fit in well with the current team they have. In which case its probably also a good thing for you that you didn't get the job - perhaps the current team is full of old guys who were quite similar to the people you met at interview. Just go somewhere else, I'm sure you'll find better jobs elsewhere.

Being selected for a job is as much down to your ability to do the job as it is down to the opinion of the hiring manager as to whether he thinks he'd like to work with you & whether you're likely to get on and fit in well with the current team.

 

[Basher]

Christ, so many buzz-words and assumptions in this thread.

If was told to build a lego house (for that role) I would have told them to give me a proper interview, or walk out.

Wow, what a fantastic candidate you sound like.

 

[LordSplodge]

I was involved in a team building exercise once that involved building a tower out of one pack of jelly cubes and one pack of spaghetti. It was obviously an exercise in team work but I still built the highest tower.

Everybody copied me next time round.

Anyway the OP is blaming having problems (Dyslexia) on not getting anywhere. It is not an excuse. There are two types of people: Those who get on with things and succeed regardless of any problems or setback and those who just whine about how life is unfair and they cannot get anywhere because they have "problems" - stupidity by the way isn't a recognized disability.

 

[DominicStar]

This group based stuff was thought up by Americans afaik

It does have a very strong trans-atlantic whiff.

Honestly if I turned up for a job interview and they wanted to do all that I would simply walk out and not waste my time.

I wouldn't want to work with or for such people.

Same here. Ive had to sit supervising stupid aptitude tests that are irrelevant to a job before - it's embarassing enough doing that let alone the test.

Since when is 'projection of character' a high requirement for a non customer facing support role?

There is no such thing as a non customer facing support role. If you are in a support role, the people you are supporting are your customers. Internal, external, theoretical people in tests.

 

[LordSplodge]

There is no such thing as a non customer facing support role.

Even Back Office jobs require the ability to communicate with people. Some of the people I have worked with make me wonder how they got the job with such **** poor communication skills.

Then I remember I work for the Public Sector and it all clicks!

 

[Tony Williams]

So the next "assesment" Is to chose 5 words that mean the most to the customer, Rember this is a technical systems support role with limited or no customer interaction. So i did this yet again and shared and debate which one would be the correct five.


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What words were they that you picked?

 

[chumpit]

What words were they that you picked?

honesty, ethusiastic, knowlegdeable, high standerds & integrity.
Probally all spelt incorrectly.
but apperently according to one person in this forum i'd rather complain than get on with the job, in that case ill take a wad of benefits for my physical disablity and give up working all together.

 

[Tony Williams]

honesty, ethusiastic, knowlegdeable, high standerds & integrity.
Probally all spelt incorrectly.
but apperently according to one person in this forum i'd rather complain than get on with the job, in that case ill take a wad of benefits for my physical disablity and give up working all together.

Don't pull your hair out about the job, they are obviously missing out. I haven't even got (or had) a job. Just look elsewhere, I know it's a pain right now.

I've never had a job (no exp.) and I also have very little GCSEs. That puts me in a bad runt compared to all the other people who have this and that, jobs here and there.

 

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[chumpit]

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I love that show!!!

 

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