MONACO Grand Prix 2009 - Race 6/17 Official GP Thread

I wouldn't like to guess what the top 3 will be this week, monaco can be very unpredictable! It's pleasing to see Massa back in the mix again, he clearly still has lots of fight in him. Lewis looking like he's taken the car to the absolute edge of it's performance as we'd expect. Should be a good'n. As someone said above, the extra mechanical grip this year in the slow corners should keep things interesting, and the nature of the circuit is that the field does not spread much, and the cars become much more even. Hopefully Sutil can repeat his great drive of last year.

Just watched the extended highlights of the 1996 race there, was a real treat, and a blast from the past for sure! I think I must have just been really getting into watching F1 at about that time.
 
PinkFloyd said:
See AcidHell2's post further up the page. First practise replay is up, but not the second yet (although it may be on the site and Acid just hasn't updated his post yet)
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Highlites have been uploaded but still can't find teh full 2nd practice. Will update post.

Highlights - Rosberg sets pace in Monaco
Nico Rosberg sets the fastest lap in the second practice session for the Monaco Grand Prix ahead of McLaren's Lewis Hamilton.


My first post on the first page is best place for people to check for video links and timings.

Also if Thomas. PLease. wants to copy and paste it in to the OP then feel free.
 
arknor said:
bet button copied rubens setup for practice 2 like last time :rolleyes:
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There is absolutely nothing wrong with that. In fact, its great when a driver copies his team-mate's setup and then ends up going faster than the said team-mate.

Button is doing a great job so far this season. 4 wins out of 5 races - thats World Drivers Championship form. And this coming from someone who doesnt like Button at all. ;)
 
sunama said:
Button is doing a great job so far this season. 4 wins out of 5 races - thats World Drivers Championship form. And this coming from someone who doesnt like Button at all. ;)
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High praise indeed, coming from someone who posted this little gem in response to Button - gasp! - dating someone. OH NOES!!!!111oneoneone

Oh, and this.....





....this....





.....and of course this, plus much more. I particularly like this bit from that last one:

sunama said:
In 2009, if they manage to race, they will be at the mid-back of the grid and will then once again concentrate on the following year's car.
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Strange sort of mid-pack performance, this. One might even call it.....front-running, in fact. How odd. Oh, and to use one of your ripostes from that thread I quoted from - he's racing at present in a car that he helped develop. Again, how odd that a journeyman driver only interested in money and pretty girls has been able to help develop a very good car and then race it to 4 wins in 5 races.

:)

Note to self - must stop posting when work hasn't been fun, because you get far too trenchant for your own good.
 
Wicksta said:
Why have you gone for Red Bull out of interest?

I'll go for a Hamilton win I think, he seems to be on a different level at this track.
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I think Buttons luck is about to run out, it has to. Doesn't the Reb Bull have the new diffuser now, I expect Webber to go well round monaco and get his first win, hopefully.

JRS stop picking out those quotes much more fun to make one mega post with them all at the end of the season if Button wins the title. There's about 100 posts worth :D
 
sunama said:
Button is doing a great job so far this season. 4 wins out of 5 races - thats World Drivers Championship form. And this coming from someone who doesnt like Button at all. ;)
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a lot of the drivers would have done the same in the brawngp car though so it doesnt make him a true champion in my eyes yet there has been no real challenge at all this season so far.

i dont think we have ever seen button driving out of his skin in a poor car like others have done in the past and this season
 
NathanE said:
@arknor

Button's days at BAR and racing up with Alonso and Schumi clearly counted for nothing... :(
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And Villeneuve. Buttons a driver that hasn't cherry picked his chumpmates and requested no 1 status.

@ Arknor Haven't seen button driving out of his skin in a poor car? Why because he wasn't making mistakes and sliding the car? You don't have to be fighting the car to be trying your best. In 07 he did a sound job in a bad car.

Besides the bad cars BAR and Honda gave him are in no way a comparison to the ones Lewis has drove at mclaren or Alonso at Renault. The class and ability of those teams didn't compare to Hondas annual give it 3 races then start working on next years car.
 
Button is a decent driver, but I see nothing to indicate he's one of the best; certainly he hasn't shown it in any other season. In his first season he was outclassed by Ralfy - a second string driver if ever there was one - in his second season he was outclassed by Fisichella (who Heikki beat in his first season). In his third season he beat Trulli, not a bad season really, but then you look at what Alonso was able to do with a roughly equal car the season after and it doesn't look so hot.

At BAR he beat an ailing Villeneuve who was way past his prime in 2003, and scored a good number of podiums in 2004. But, here's the thing, shouldn't a top notch driver in a car capable of getting 12 podiums and 2nd place in the constructors have managed to win a race or two? 2005 was a rotten season for BAR, and Jenson probably got what he could from it.

Then came the Honda years, paired with the second-string Rubens he beat him in 2006 and 2007 and then was beaten by him in 2008.

That's not the record of one of F1's greats; it's the record of a decent driver a little off the top tier. This year he's been given the best car on the track and made the most of it - credit to him - but he's not the best driver on the grid by any measure.
 
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