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hi all ..

Quick Q :

iam just setting up a new SSD raid0 rig an would like to ask ...

with these new SSD`s is best to turn off page file or not ?

i have 8gb of ram Vista64 an 2 new sammy`s 64gb SSD`s in a raid0 setup

Soo what`s the genreal thinking on this, page file or no page file ?
 
You're best to leave the page file on, as even if you never run out of RAM, certain applications require a page file to run or will operate incorrectly without one.
 
I'm not sure exactly what, but there was a big debate here a month or two ago with several people saying they switch theirs off and others saying that was a bad idea.

Leaving it on makes no negative impact on performance so I don't see why people bother turning it off tbh. If you can't spare 4-6GB of hard disk space then you need to go and buy another hard disk really.
 
I don't think it was about spare hard disk space, it was one of the tweaks that Tony from OCZ suggested.

Personally page file was created to prevent crap pc's from locking up when they would run low on ram, and it runs much slower than ram.
 
I have no page file with 8gb ram, no probs here. But recent Microsoft advice is, if you have a page file and space, to put it on the SSD. TBH you could just turn it off and if you have any issues, turn it back on again. You'll be fine with 8GB unless you start multitasking memory-intensive programs or use virtual machines, that sort of thing.
 
i have 8gb of ram on vista page file has been off for some time not had any issues with it (i use windows 7 so even less ram is now used)
 
Having a page file on an SSD atm isn't a good idea as even if your not actually using it much adds unecessary write wear...

Having one configured doesn't really do much to hinder performance so you might as well leave it on if your using a mechanical HDD.

Turning the page file off completely can potentially cause problems - in practise I've been running my laptop with it off for years and never seen one single problem yet.

I leave it on, on my desktop PCs tho - one that I use for video game map compiling can cause some problems with it off as the compile can easily swallow 4+gigs of RAM.
 
if useing vista or win7 64, once you got 8gb you should not run out of ram

as i can see on windows 7 i can see from time to time it writing stuff to the pagefile so its off agane now (would think with 8gb ram it not be used)
 
well the main Q is with SSD`s havin to write to the same location ..

don`t wanna kill blocks on the drive by havin the page file turned on as it`ll keep writing to to same location all the time ..

which from what i`ve read isn`t a problem with normal HD`s as they delete the files properly ..

plz correct me if iam wrong plz ! but seeing as these drives are very new tech , i don`t wanna knacker them up :(
 
but not the same location on the SSD (same cell) the wear leveling picks where each LBA block goes so not to wear out the same cell over and over

less then 4gb ram page file may be needed, above that amount you should not need it

does not matter any way if pc is crashing put the page file on the hdd that is likely going to be in the PC page file norm used for unused program that are not been used for an bit
 
If you have a spare hard drive, just place the pagefile on that one, and remove it from the main. Thats what ive done. :)
 
well I must not be using any of the programs that need it then. I have never had a crash or problem ever.

I simply do not like the idea of using any hd as ram.
 
miniyazz said:
But recent Microsoft advice is, if you have a page file and space, to put it on the SSD.
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Rroff said:
Having a page file on an SSD atm isn't a good idea as even if your not actually using it much adds unecessary write wear...
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Not so much. Read this.

Should the pagefile be placed on SSDs?

Yes. Most pagefile operations are small random reads or larger sequential writes, both of which are types of operations that SSDs handle well.

In looking at telemetry data from thousands of traces and focusing on pagefile reads and writes, we find that

* Pagefile.sys reads outnumber pagefile.sys writes by about 40 to 1,
* Pagefile.sys read sizes are typically quite small, with 67% less than or equal to 4 KB, and 88% less than 16 KB.
* Pagefile.sys writes are relatively large, with 62% greater than or equal to 128 KB and 45% being exactly 1 MB in size.

In fact, given typical pagefile reference patterns and the favorable performance characteristics SSDs have on those patterns, there are few files better than the pagefile to place on an SSD.
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According to the OCZ Forum you can optimize the OS to keep write intensive files off the SSD which will increase its longevity. Functions that the OS needs to operate can be moved to another drive (Ram Drive, fast HDD) and unecessary functions may be disabled entirely. There is an SSD Tweak Utility posted on their forum that allows control over several write intensive functions:


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